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Paul Barber writes a rather magnificent letter to the FL re: Player's failings



Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
Oh dear.

Dear All

I wrote earlier today to my colleagues Shaun Harvey and Richard Heaselgrave at The Football League to warn them in advance that we would be sending a formal complaint to Perform and to the Football League concerning our ongoing unsatisfactory experience with Seagulls Player and Perform.

For our match at Middlesbrough yesterday, we had yet more poor service from Perform, with another unreliable commentary stream via Seagulls Player for the ENTIRE 90 minutes including silence for most of the second half, a period which also saw us score the only goal of the game. I'm sure you will agree that this is far from acceptable.

Our fans are paying for a product, and they are simply not getting it. We know match commentary is one of the main reasons many fans sign up to Player and, in this day and age, it is a basic level of service that should be very easy to provide. Furthermore we also appreciate fans are investing time to listen, with some even getting up in the middle of the night, depending on their time zones.

The simple fact is that the service should work in a reliable way. That has not happened for months, even years, and it is no longer acceptable to us. It's totally unfair that our club and our brand are now being damaged by persistent problems and failures brought about by the up reliability of Perform's service. This will soon - if it hasn't happened already - start to have a material financial effect as subscriptions are cancelled.

Indeed, in this regard, please could you supply numbers of Seagulls Player subscribers who've cancelled their services with FLi/Perform this season at your earliest convenience. To demonstrate the issues we are facing, I would like to report this number accurately to our Board at our December meeting which takes place all day tomorrow (Monday 16 December).

At recent games v Wigan, and yesterday v Middlesbrough, our media team have been unable to report on large periods of the game (via seagulls.co.uk and twitter) as they've been trying to rectify commentary issues instead of concentrating on the jobs we actually pay them to do. Perform should be taking responsibility for this - not our staff!

Furthermore, the media team and I - as well as other areas of our club - are dealing with an increasing number of complaints from irate supporters who are coming direct to the club via email, twitter and other methods in increasing numbers. You may wish to check our supporter message boards for some very direct and forthright feedback on Perform and the Player service.

I now think it's very important that current subscribers receive some form of uniform financial gesture from FLi/Perform as compensation. I would suggest that, as a minimum, all Seagulls Player subscribers receive the second half of the season for free. In fact, you may also wish to consider, as a further gesture of goodwill - which badly needs restoring - refunding this season's subscriptions in full.

After continued problems this season, just over two weeks ago we tested the system over an entire day, streaming direct from BBC Sussex and the stream worked perfectly. Perform accepted this. The stream worked well for the last three matches, and it seemed as if things were going well.

Pre-match our media team checked the stream from Middlesbrough and it was running. Then in the first half they discovered the stream was dropping out intermittently. Calls were made to Perform to rectify the situation - but the tech team, as has happened many times previously, were unable to offer an explanation for the issues. Eventually, the feed dropped completely. The media then called the BBC and asked them to redial in, and despite several attempts, nothing happened

Finally - after three further calls to Perform - the team were given a new number to pass onto the BBC to dial, and the audio came back for the final four minutes. There were still a couple of intermittent drops in coverage, but again Perform's tech team couldn't tell the media team whether this was an issue on the feed coming in, or whether it's an issue on the Player feed.

Perform are simply NOT delivering the service they're employed by FLi to provide. It is ridiculous that nobody at Perform is checking the incoming and outgoing feeds for quality or reliability; and that our staff have to call Perform to flag problems. Surely alarm bells should be ringing if the stream is not 100%?

It isn't acceptable to expect our media team (or supporters) to be expected to flag up and deal with these problems. Perform should be on top of them, or they should not arise. Furthermore, it is not acceptable for our club's directors, media and customer service staff to be spending huge amounts of time on a match day dealing with irate supporters who have paid for a service they are not receiving. Again, this is Perform's responsibility.

Until someone at Perform actually takes ownership of the specific problem of the intermittent commentary, this issue will never be solved. Therefore I would ask that somebody at FLi and at Perform takes the time to check out match commentary moving forward and provides us with a report on each game: quality of stream, problems, reasons, downtime etc.

I haven't yet touched on the financial impact for our club. In the last quarter we earned XXX from Player subs, plus XXX in syndication (linked to subscriber numbers). We feel this number should actually be much higher, not least when you consider our home attendances continue to be the best in the league. But the poor reputation of Seagulls Player is restricting us. In this Financial Fair Play era when every penny of revenue matters more than ever before, we simply cannot continue to accept our club being penalised in this way and neither can we accept our fans being continually let down.

I look forward to your urgent comments on this matter, to hearing your plan to rectify this situation, and your thoughts on how our supporters will be compensated.

Regards, Paul

Barber out!
 






seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,709
Crap Town
Is player as unreliable when we are at home ?

Ask Uncle C. If it wasn't for him there would have been several matches over the years without any commentary at the start.
 


Hyperion

New member
Nov 1, 2010
5,314
Quite agree, I just cannot imagine these current FL sites generate the same amount of revenue from advertising as the last site templates did. The firm that configured them is call Sapient Nitro, then it's through FLi. I imagine there is a contract in place, and we'd be unable to change it. There are very few clubs in the FL with their 'own' websites, I know Leeds and Middlesbrough do, QPR also. The FL have been done up like a kipper by the current rot.

You're right, it seems like they have been stitched up.

Though the FL really should have more balls and drop that pissant outfit if they are that poor
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,960
Back in Sussex
Is player as unreliable when we are at home ?

I'm told that when we are at home, or at 'local' away games where we have a large away following, it tends to be OK. When we're a long way from home, and there may be an above average number of fans trying to listen (e.g. Wigan and Middlesbrough away this season) it often fails. Read into that what you will...
 




blockhseagull

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2006
7,357
Southampton
I'm told that when we are at home, or at 'local' away games where we have a large away following, it tends to be OK. When we're a long way from home, and there may be an above average number of fans trying to listen (e.g. Wigan and Middlesbrough away this season) it often fails. Read into that what you will...

I think the problem lies with the way the club dial in to the service
 


The Andy Naylor Fan Club

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2012
5,147
Right Here, Right Now
I'm told that when we are at home, or at 'local' away games where we have a large away following, it tends to be OK. When we're a long way from home, and there may be an above average number of fans trying to listen (e.g. Wigan and Middlesbrough away this season) it often fails. Read into that what you will...

More of our fans need to attend away games..:whistle:
 


Seagull over Canaryland

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2011
3,552
Norfolk
Good letter and about time too. As an exiled fan having to ration my attendances at games I have been very keen on subscribing to Seagulls Player over the last two seasons but am constantly deterred by the negative feedback on here, so I haven't wasted my money. I hope Barber's letter triggers an acceptable outcome.

BTW - Barber was the subject of some jeering at Boro yesterday, something along the lines '...he might have bought us a beer but he's still a c**t.....' .

I know he gets stick from certain quarters but that seemed a bit harsh, maybe the singers had been on the sauce all day, maybe they thought it was funny. Ok it was only a handful of punters singing but seems a bit sad to travel on 700 mile round trip, only to spout that sort of bile - rather than focus on supporting the team.
 




Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,169
Nice letter.

Do other clubs have this problem? If so surely its only a matter of time before we all link up and tell Perform and the Football League where to stick the deal (and the templated website to boot) and each club goes there own way and earns their own cash.
 




severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,550
By the seaside in West Somerset
Unbelievably hard working on behalf of the club and the fans. Accessible and accountable. We are fortunate to have him.
 






symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
Nice letter.

Do other clubs have this problem? If so surely its only a matter of time before we all link up and tell Perform and the Football League where to stick the deal (and the templated website to boot) and each club goes there own way and earns their own cash.

When I have listened to other commentaries through the Seagulls Player system I have sometimes found that they have the same problem, so we are not the only ones affected by this.
 


HawkTheSeagull

New member
Jan 31, 2012
9,122
Eastbourne
Good letter and about time too. As an exiled fan having to ration my attendances at games I have been very keen on subscribing to Seagulls Player over the last two seasons but am constantly deterred by the negative feedback on here, so I haven't wasted my money. I hope Barber's letter triggers an acceptable outcome.

BTW - Barber was the subject of some jeering at Boro yesterday, something along the lines '...he might have bought us a beer but he's still a c**t.....' .

I know he gets stick from certain quarters but that seemed a bit harsh, maybe the singers had been on the sauce all day, maybe they thought it was funny. Ok it was only a handful of punters singing but seems a bit sad to travel on 700 mile round trip, only to spout that sort of bile - rather than focus on supporting the team.

If true, then that is pretty damn pathetic.
 






chimneys

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2007
3,592
What a refreshing thread!

Tony Bloom always knew he'd brought on board the best in the business. Perhaps this is now being recognised.

Yes, there are going to be decisions made by the club that not everyone agrees with, but my God we are well run!

The future's Oscar! The future's Brighton.
 


Muzzy

Well-known member
Jan 25, 2011
4,787
Lewes
Thanks PB. I hope that you get a better response than we have. This is long over due and it really did need saying.
I am also now 100% convinced that people at the club do read this site as the strength of feeling has been taken into account from the recent SP thread.
Once again thanks to all at BHA :)
 


strings

Moving further North...
Feb 19, 2006
9,965
Barnsley
Having read the letter again, and I'm no expert, it does look like we are laying the ground to claim breach of contract.
 






Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,518
Haywards Heath
Just reminded me I was going to cancel player, I'm going to invest the savings in a new wireless :thumbsup:

P.S Barber is actually alright isn't he. Sometimes he has a dirty jobs to do, but fair play to him - he does it very well.
 


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