Crisis Averted - Benayoun to QPR

[edna krabappel]

It's quite funny really. With the squad that QPR have, they should be ripping this league apart. Somehow, they're just plodding along in the top four, failing to impress anyone and scraping 1-0 wins (don't get me wrong, I'd take that, but the Albion aren't in the same league, squad-wise).

Rob Green, Richard Dunne, Julio Cesar, Onuoha, Assou-Ekotto, Jenas, Andy Johnson, Zamora, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Barton, Kranjcar, Karl Henry, Junior Hoilett, Luke Young. All with Premier League experience, some at international level. Then they hoover up the best the Championship has to offer like Charlie Austin and Matt Phillips.

If Redknapp doesn't have the league title sewn up by March with that lot on board, then he needs to take a serious look at himself.

(Obviously he will, then conclude that it's somebody else's fault, resign and take another "last job in football")

 

[Dick Head]

It's quite funny really. With the squad that QPR have, they should be ripping this league apart. Somehow, they're just plodding along in the top four, failing to impress anyone and scraping 1-0 wins (don't get me wrong, I'd take that, but the Albion aren't in the same league, squad-wise).

Rob Green, Richard Dunne, Julio Cesar, Onuoha, Assou-Ekotto, Jenas, Andy Johnson, Zamora, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Barton, Kranjcar, Karl Henry, Junior Hoilett, Luke Young. All with Premier League experience, some at international level. Then they hoover up the best the Championship has to offer like Charlie Austin and Matt Phillips.

If Redknapp doesn't have the league title sewn up by March with that lot on board, then he needs to take a serious look at himself.

(Obviously he will, then conclude that it's somebody else's fault, resign and take another "last job in football")

Did you mean your Rob Greens, your Richard Dunnes, your Julio Cesars, your Onuohas, your Assou-Ekottos etc. etc? That's how people that know about football talk.

 

[edna krabappel]

Did you mean your Rob Greens, your Richard Dunnes, your Julio Cesars, your Onuohas, your Assou-Ekottos etc. etc? That's how people that know about football talk.

God, you're right. Sorry. Top, top point you've made there.

 

[Justice]

It's quite funny really. With the squad that QPR have, they should be ripping this league apart. Somehow, they're just plodding along in the top four, failing to impress anyone and scraping 1-0 wins (don't get me wrong, I'd take that, but the Albion aren't in the same league, squad-wise).

Rob Green, Richard Dunne, Julio Cesar, Onuoha, Assou-Ekotto, Jenas, Andy Johnson, Zamora, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Barton, Kranjcar, Karl Henry, Junior Hoilett, Luke Young. All with Premier League experience, some at international level. Then they hoover up the best the Championship has to offer like Charlie Austin and Matt Phillips.

If Redknapp doesn't have the league title sewn up by March with that lot on board, then he needs to take a serious look at himself.

(Obviously he will, then conclude that it's somebody else's fault, resign and take another "last job in football")

There are no easy games in the championship, is there really that much difference in the standard of lower PL and top of the championship?

 

[swindonseagull]

You can if the owners pockets are deep enough, and he is a billionaire, is he not ?

I think he owns Air Asia and also Caterham Formula 1....so hes not short of a few quid..

 

[TopCat]

Tony Fernandes is joint owner with Lakshmi Mittal who is the one with the big bucks - $16.5BN at last count. 5th richest owner of a football club in the world according to this from Forbes (from last year): http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardo...ng-lineup-the-11-richest-soccer-billionaires/

 

[Beach Seagull]

Have never understood the amount of Harry bashing that happens on here.

He's had success wherever he's been (apart from Soton).

Took Bournemouth into Div 2 (now the championship)

Took West Ham to a top 5 PL finish in the 90's.

Took Portsmouth up into the PL (after years in the wilderness) and kept them there.

Yes then Pompey started spending money they didnt have, but I would say 99.99% of football managers will spend and ask no questions if they are offered money to spend. If TB suddenly said to Oscar go out and having a spending spree in the transfer window would Oscar say 'are you sure we can afford it boss?' Would we as fans be saying the same things or would we happily go along with the ride.

Yes he spent but he also won them a trophy. Managers dont play any part anymore in transfer negotiations (that was very 1980's) they give the names who they want to the chief exec and he does the rest, so can imagine with HR he was told was money available and he asked for Crouch, Defo, James etc.

Soton yes a disaster granted.

Spurs a huge success. CL quarter finalist, never lower than fifth, fantastic footy (I bet a few Spurs supporters would welcome him back now). Hugely unlucky not to qualify for the CL another season after Chelsea's somewhat fortunate victory in it.

As for QPR they were in a mess when he got there and were a squad full of 80K a week 'superstars' and 8K a week journeymen. If they are going to be in breach of FFP (and lets face it none of us have seen their books so we dont know) it cant be attributed to HR.

As for him signing Austin, Phillips, Benayoun, again all he has done is ask to get them, the moneymen can say no.

Never understand the snobbery of the way he speaks either 'triffic' etc, what do you expect he is a cockney!!! He is hardly going to speak like Stephen Fry.

He is also one of the few football managers who doesn't treat the post match interviewer like something he scraped from his shoe, usually addressing them by their first name.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Cannot see Benayoun putting on his boots for anything less than £30k a week.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

No doubt there will be some loophole they can exploit. FFP has been a resounding failure so far.

First we were told that those clubs who broke the FFP rules would be fined and the money shared amongst those who kept the rules. Then we were told that the money (if it is paid) would go to charity. If a team gets promoted then they won't get fined because they are no longer in the Football League and teams like QPR don't come into it because they are getting parachute payments.
The scales seem very heavily loaded to me.

 

[Questions]

Cannot see Benayoun putting on his boots for anything less than £30k a week.

WHAT ! He has to put his own boots on ?

 

[Pevenseagull]

A Forest supporting mate who's normally quite reliable informs me that they're lining up an £8million bid for Jordan Rhodes.


FFP, FFS

 

[edna krabappel]

Have never understood the amount of Harry bashing that happens on here

I just don't like the bloke, I think I'm entitled to my opinion on that.

For what it's worth, the reason he doesn't treat the interviewer like something he scraped from his shoe is because he has most of them in his pocket. They're all on his side because he's ready with a rent-a-quote every time. It's just a big friendly circle, old 'Arry and his mates. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours? That's why there was such a media campaign to have him made England boss. I think the media misread the public mood badly on that one.

 

[Beach Seagull]

I just don't like the bloke, I think I'm entitled to my opinion on that.

For what it's worth, the reason he doesn't treat the interviewer like something he scraped from his shoe is because he has most of them in his pocket. They're all on his side because he's ready with a rent-a-quote every time. It's just a big friendly circle, old 'Arry and his mates. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours? That's why there was such a media campaign to have him made England boss. I think the media misread the public mood badly on that one.

Yes could not agree more that you are entitled to your opinion as is anyone on here (or anywhere else for that matter).

Do you have any evidence that 'he has most of them in his pocket.' Why he need say Jeff Shreeves 'on his side' and vice versa.

Do you actual evdence of this 'big friendy circle?'

Most people i spoke to wanted HR as England manager, like to think my friends are reasonably knowledgable on football and therefore a good barometer of public opinion.

I notice you choose not to address any of the other points i made in my first post on this thread........

 

[Simster]

I notice you choose not to address any of the other points i made in my first post on this thread........

Ok, I will.

This idea of his long list of success is a re-write of history. Granted, he did a decent job at Bournemouth. A promotion on the back of goals from on-loan Jermaine Defoe. But Pompey? FFS, he bankrupted them. There aren't many managers who wouldn't get Pompey to that level with players like Sully Muntari playing for them. He was a total disaster at Southampton and no-one at West Ham has much positive to say about him - he had a golden generation and they were bang average most of the time under Redknapp.


And talking of ignoring things, what about secret foreign bank accounts in his dog's name? You asking for evidence of wrong doing is a bit rich.

 

[Beach Seagull]

Ok, I will.

This idea of his long list of success is a re-write of history. Granted, he did a decent job at Bournemouth. A promotion on the back of goals from on-loan Jermaine Defoe. But Pompey? FFS, he bankrupted them. There aren't many managers who wouldn't get Pompey to that level with players like Sully Muntari playing for them. He was a total disaster at Southampton and no-one at West Ham has much positive to say about him - he had a golden generation and they were bang average most of the time under Redknapp.


And talking of ignoring things, what about secret foreign bank accounts in his dog's name? You asking for evidence of wrong doing is a bit rich.

Wrong about 'promotion on the back of goals from Jermaine Defoe!!!' Think Defoe was about 10 back then. Redknapp loaned him to B/mouth when WHU manager. He won promotion on the back of goals from a guy called Colin Clarke who he brought for £20k and sold for 500k i believe. Sounds like the one 're-writing history' there is you!!!!

He didn't 'bankrupt pompey' the owners did that. The manager doesn't spend the money the owners do, the manager just says please can i but x and y player. As for any 'manager would get pompey to that level' who knows? Look at the money Man City spent last year and lost to wigan in the FA cup final.

Bang average at West Ham? You could argue that West Ham have always been 'bang average'. But they finished 5th in 97-98 I bet they would take that now. The golden generation we just starting to come through when he left and it was Roader who got them relegated with a side containing Cole, Lampard, Ferdinand, Johnson, Sinclair.

 

[Beach Seagull]

Ok, I will.

This idea of his long list of success is a re-write of history. Granted, he did a decent job at Bournemouth. A promotion on the back of goals from on-loan Jermaine Defoe. But Pompey? FFS, he bankrupted them. There aren't many managers who wouldn't get Pompey to that level with players like Sully Muntari playing for them. He was a total disaster at Southampton and no-one at West Ham has much positive to say about him - he had a golden generation and they were bang average most of the time under Redknapp.


And talking of ignoring things, what about secret foreign bank accounts in his dog's name? You asking for evidence of wrong doing is a bit rich.

'Ignoring things about secret foreign bank accounts in his dogs name?' He was found not guilty of tax evasion at Southwark crown court in Feb 2012.

 

[Steve in Japan]

Becoming very obvious that the Football League version of FFP is not going to be enforceable - you can`t let promoted clubs off, and then enforce it on clubs who didn`t get promoted. If it came to court, no judge is going to say thats fair. So IMO theres a good chance the FL FFP will be quietly postponed, pending UEFA getting the Premier League to play ball. Which might happen in 2016/17, or thereagain it might not.

You`d need PL and FL agreement to make an interim solution work, and that isn`t going to happen.

So if I am right, that means nothing really changes. Clubs with super rich suger-daddies will try to buy a place in the PL, which is what`s happening now of course. There won`t be any FFP financial penalty for that behaviour in the next few years. Can`t see it.

 

[edna krabappel]

'Ignoring things about secret foreign bank accounts in his dogs name?' He was found not guilty of tax evasion at Southwark crown court in Feb 2012.

You are Harry Redknapp and I claim my £500.

So your mates like him. Mine, I generally find don't. And as for mates in the media, just look at the response in much of the tabloid press when their old pal Harry didn't get the job! They started making out as though the nation was stunned by Hodgson's appointment, and, even worse, mocking his slight speech impediment.

I'm not sure I've ever seen any of the major newspapers mock Redknapp's less-than-model looks, or his twitching. So why the piss taking of Hodgson?

 

[Surf's Up]

Becoming very obvious that the Football League version of FFP is not going to be enforceable - you can`t let promoted clubs off, and then enforce it on clubs who didn`t get promoted. If it came to court, no judge is going to say thats fair. So IMO theres a good chance the FL FFP will be quietly postponed, pending UEFA getting the Premier League to play ball. Which might happen in 2016/17, or thereagain it might not.

You`d need PL and FL agreement to make an interim solution work, and that isn`t going to happen.

So if I am right, that means nothing really changes. Clubs with super rich suger-daddies will try to buy a place in the PL, which is what`s happening now of course. There won`t be any FFP financial penalty for that behaviour in the next few years. Can`t see it.[/QUOTE

If true, that makes us ........... er.................. mugs, possibly?

 

[Surf's Up]

and I wouldn't buy a second hand car from 'arry.