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pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Completely wrong. As I said before if you want the club to change then join in an vote for change. If ignorance is bliss then you must be over the moon.

sorry but i think you have misunderstood me,i would love a proper run supporters club which i would love to be involved in............ i just dont see the current one as well proper or relevant
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,008
Living In a Box
sorry but i think you have misunderstood me,i would love a proper run supporters club which i would love to be involved in............ i just dont see the current one as well proper or relevant

Irrelevant and elitist is about where we are
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I'm playing devil's advocate there a bit. I have massive respect for folk like Liz, They work tirelessly on many fronts, not seeking any plaudits or recognition for their endeavours. Liz, in particular, has ensured that Albion fans can get to Albion games everywhere for many years. The value of this can not be under-estimated.


i do not wish to get into a luzzing contest with you,you are correct that Liz has served the Albion well over the years but we have a massive growing fan base,and a season ticket monopoly which is virtually unheard of given our status,Liz used to supply albion fans with travel to away games now you get the same deal with the added bonus of a pushy gay agenda......that is balls in my book
 




Seagulls Downunder

Active member
Mar 3, 2008
503
Sydney
Well join then. It doesn't cost much and all the details are on their website. A lot of people these days don't join these things because they may be asked to actually do something.


If that's some sort of dig then it's aimed at the wrong person, I have enough to do running SDU and there's not much I can do from here anyway. I was never a member in the UK but I still went on all the protests, was at the sit in at Wycombe amongst other things.
According to Thunder Bolt there is no joining fee, if that's the case then maybe they should contact the club and get the listing changed to show this.
 




Brovion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,416
Interesting post this. I totally agree.

The facts:

Season ticket holders 23,000
NSC members 18,000
NSC active members 6,300
Supporters club members 300

So which would you say is more representative of the Albion's fan base now? It certainly isn't the supporters club. Average age 60 possibly?
I was going to post something similar. Like others I've got nothing against the main/official/oldest (delete as appropriate) Supporters' Club. If people want to belong to a formal structure like that then fine. I do think in this day and age that, like paper fanzines, their time has largely passed but that doesn't meant to say they shouldn't exist. However this IS the modern era and as a supporters' group, despite the fact it has not formal organisation, NSC is FAR more representative of fan opinion. Fans aren't some homogenous group who all think the same and all want the same and the diversity of opinion on NSC reflects that. But even that diversity can coalesce into clear strands of thought at times (Do we want Garcia sacked no? Hell, no! What a stupid question!), so when the media want a quote from 'Brighton Supporters' they can do a lot worse than come to Bozza as opposed to their usual suspect.

That being the case why did the supporters club go direct to the FA having completed their tick chart about homophobia as opposed to discuss with the club first ?
However if that is true my ambivalence towards the Supporters' Club vanishes. That is inexcusable, they don't represent us. Hopefully the FA just disregarded it as the irrelevant rantings of a few old women.
 


Seagulls Downunder

Active member
Mar 3, 2008
503
Sydney
Several years ago at York a prominent member of the supporters club (who I won't name as every time I do I get told she isn't on here to defend herself) suggested to us that we shouldn't be in their supporters bar as we weren't in the supporters club party (i.e. gone on her coach). With an attitude like that is it any wonder that they've only got a handful of members?


Bingo!!!!!!! and she won't reply to emails if it dosen't concern her little group.
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,856
Back in Sussex
when the media want a quote from 'Brighton Supporters' they can do a lot worse than come to Bozza as opposed to their usual suspect.

They do more and more, but I tend to pass, because, well...

they don't represent us.

...swap "Bozza doesn't" for "they don't".
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I was going to post something similar. Like others I've got nothing against the main/official/oldest (delete as appropriate) Supporters' Club. If people want to belong to a formal structure like that then fine. I do think in this day and age that, like paper fanzines, their time has largely passed but that doesn't meant to say they shouldn't exist. However this IS the modern era and as a supporters' group, despite the fact it has not formal organisation, NSC is FAR more representative of fan opinion. Fans aren't some homogenous group who all think the same and all want the same and the diversity of opinion on NSC reflects that. But even that diversity can coalesce into clear strands of thought at times (Do we want Garcia sacked no? Hell, no! What a stupid question!), so when the media want a quote from 'Brighton Supporters' they can do a lot worse than come to Bozza as opposed to their usual suspect.


However if that is true my ambivalence towards the Supporters' Club vanishes. That is inexcusable, they don't represent us. Hopefully the FA just disregarded it as the irrelevant rantings of a few old women.

very well put
 


Brovion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,416
They do more and more, but I tend to pass, because, well...



...swap "Bozza doesn't" for "they don't".
I accept that; you don't represent 'Brighton fans' any more than the woman who runs Mumsnet represents 'Mothers'. That's actually a good thing, a quote from "Darren, owner of the hugely-popular NorthStandChat messageboard" lets it be known that you're not speaking in any official capacity, whereas someone from the Brighton Supporters Club always gives the impression that they're imparting the duly-considered opinion of Brighton fans.

And using my previous example you could always start by saying "Well judging by the posts on NSC most Brighton fans think it's far too early to give an opinion on Oscar Garcia."
 


Seagulls Downunder

Active member
Mar 3, 2008
503
Sydney
Tim sends his newsletter to Australia.[/QUOTE]

To only a handful of our members that I know of, don't you think if membership is free you'd be better off sending it to all the other supporters groups on the club web site and we can then put it on our Facebook pages for you.
 




Muzzy

Well-known member
Jan 25, 2011
4,787
Lewes
I don't feel the need to have anyone speak on my behalf to give my opinion on any topic about our club.
If the club want a general idea of how supporters feel about the 'current' situation then they'd soon get an idea from NSC.
Reading between the lines is something that whoever did read some of the threads on here would take some doing though ;)
A voice of 300 isn't going to carry a lot of weight I'm afraid and it's probably a bit of a lost cause in the age of t'internet IMHO.
Sorry guys but I won't be interested in being told what to think and I certainly don't feel the need for a spokesperson.
No offence to anyone, just my twopenneth for what it's worth.
 


Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,152
at home
i do not wish to get into a luzzing contest with you,you are correct that Liz has served the Albion well over the years but we have a massive growing fan base,and a season ticket monopoly which is virtually unheard of given our status,Liz used to supply albion fans with travel to away games now you get the same deal with the added bonus of a pushy gay agenda......that is balls in my book


Pushy gay agenda? Eh? What do you mean?
 


The Birdman

New member
Nov 30, 2008
6,313
Haywards Heath
I am sure there is a joke in this post, but its well hidden!!:mad:

In case this is not some ironic nonsense that I don't understand, BURWASH IS IN EAST SUSSEX.
We attended a couple of events at Burwash AGM and talk with Peter Ward and at the AGM we thank them for inviting us to Kent just a joke between two groups of fans. That's all,just a little in joke.
 
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BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
NSC Patron
Jul 14, 2013
21,694
Newhaven
We attended a couple of events at Burwash AGM and talk with Peter Ward and at the AGM we thank them for inviting us to Kent just a joke between two groups of fans. That's all,just a little in joke.

As I said,
I am sure there is a joke in this post, but it's well hidden!!:mad:

In jokes only work with the people IN on the joke.:dunce:
 


Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,602
Buxted Harbour
Completely wrong. As I said before if you want the club to change then join in an vote for change. If ignorance is bliss then you must be over the moon.

Does anyone actually want to change the supporters club? To me their only purpose is to ferry people to away games. Most folk seem able to do without their help so even if it was the greatest club in the world I still wouldn't join as I've no interest on going to football on a coach where I couldn't have a drink. Its a shame for people who would like to be involved that it is such a closed shop but quite frankly those people are better off without them IMO.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
so it's a thumbs down for the supporters club in general , with a lack of interest is it only a matter of time before they disband ?
regards
DR
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,717
Pattknull med Haksprut
whereas someone from the Brighton Supporters Club always gives the impression that they're imparting the duly-considered opinion of Brighton fans.

To be fair to Liz, she never sets herself out to be the voicepiece of Albion fans. TBH, there is no one who could perform that role, as there is a range of opinions on nearly all topics in relation to the club (barring what to do to Archer & Bellotti........although I maintain that Greg Stanley is the most culpable of the three amigos personally).

Put yourselves in the position of a journalist, they want a quick quote from a 'fan' from the Albion, the logical thing to do is to head for the Supporters Club. It isn't for me, but it represents its members well and Liz has been a risk taker over the years running coaches up and down the country, so fair play to her.
 


Brovion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,416
To be fair to Liz, she never sets herself out to be the voicepiece of Albion fans. TBH, there is no one who could perform that role, as there is a range of opinions on nearly all topics in relation to the club (barring what to do to Archer & Bellotti........although I maintain that Greg Stanley is the most culpable of the three amigos personally).

Put yourselves in the position of a journalist, they want a quick quote from a 'fan' from the Albion, the logical thing to do is to head for the Supporters Club. It isn't for me, but it represents its members well and Liz has been a risk taker over the years running coaches up and down the country, so fair play to her.
There's nothing to stop her from saying: "I'm simply one member of an organisation of only 300 people anyway. My opinion is irrelevant."
 


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