Are Forest abusing FFP rules?
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I'm not sure. Yes it might stop those who borrow heavily against the clubs assets to fund success and when they fail the whole thing goes tits up. But where the owners of clubs have untold fortunes and don't need to borrow they will continually find ways around the rules to get money into it.
I think the governing bodies will be fairly toothless in response, a bit of sabre rattling and everyone talking off the same hymn sheet but at the end of the day money talks and the success of football is driven by the huge amount of money sloshing around.
Many clubs want FFP as it should level the playing field, many won't as they want the competitive advantage their money brings
Time will tell, there are and will be enough examples of clubs flouting the rules and it will be interesting to see how well it's governed .. maybe pick off a few of the "minnows" or the more obvious examples but until then I see FFP as little more than wishful thinking
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
ANY team that DOESN'T cheat and ABUSE the FFP rules have no WAY of competing.
The Camel
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If a rich man wants to give money to his favourite football team I don't see a problem with it.
As long as it isn't debt.
As long as it isn't debt.
In the short term. In 10, 15, 20 year's time though? There will be many clubs where the gamble won't pay off, some will be hit with sanctions and others will plummet like Wolves. FFP is for the long-term sustainability of clubs. If we're in a strong position and self-sustaining we'll be better off in the long term.
Bingo! Or when the rich benefactor loses interest or the sky money evaporates etc.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
That assumes that the objective of FFP is to achieve financial fair play. Looking at the whole picture, it seems to me to be more a case of devising rules to ensure that the financial clout of the established "big clubs" isn't disturbed by allowing newcomers to turn up at the trough.
KZNSeagull
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Well yes, it is an interesting interpretation of the word "fair". The bigger money generators will continue accumulating and it will be a lot harder for them to be usurped.
Just read this as well re FFP which I had not seen before http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23669759
portslade seagull
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FFP will be tested by a court case by one of the big clubs if it starts to affect them and will have the same result as the Bosman case and in 5 yrs will be all forgotten about
Guy Fawkes
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- Sep 29, 2007
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There is already a legal challenge to this system
http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/legal-challenge-to-uefa-ffp-rules-by-bosman-lawyer
Guy Fawkes
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Hopefully the main result from ffp would be to reduce players wages back to more sensible levels whioch clubs can afford.
Players having to accept less money because clubs bidding against each other to sign them haven't got as much to spend on wages, and this then benefits all divisions rather than having top flight players earning £200k+ a week, meaning lower league players think they are worth thousands of pounds a week rather than an affordable couple of hundred pounds a week to play.
Players having to accept less money because clubs bidding against each other to sign them haven't got as much to spend on wages, and this then benefits all divisions rather than having top flight players earning £200k+ a week, meaning lower league players think they are worth thousands of pounds a week rather than an affordable couple of hundred pounds a week to play.
£10.4k pa; less than half of the UK average salary. I understand and agree with the sentiment, but this is never going to happen!
Guy Fawkes
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- Sep 29, 2007
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They weren't meant to be actual salary figures, but to be used as an example of how they would go down (from thousands pw to hundreds pw)
Mad as my Mother
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This is pretty much what I have considered FFP to be about since first hearing of it. Under the guise of a far more considerate rule.
You're confusing two different FFP here. We have to adhere to the FL version.
Again. This is a different FFP to the one Brighton have to follow. We follow the FL version, NOT the UEFA version. A crucial difference is that the FL member clubs voted this rule in.
FFP is a joke.
UEFA ignore Monaco's 100 million pound plus spending spree on the back of 2k crowds but ban Malaga!
UEFA ignore Monaco's 100 million pound plus spending spree on the back of 2k crowds but ban Malaga!
Publius Ovidius
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taking that argument one step further...club X says Feck FFP, I am going to spend 20 million on a team and lets say they get promoted!...they then get all the benefits of premier league..tv money, etc etc and then lets say in three years they are relegated...they get a feck off great parachute payment and use that to offset any sanctions the innefective League/EUFA/ETC throw at them
They become a yo yo club as they can afford to do so due to parachute payments.
I do not believe it will. As I have pointed out many times we follow the FL version and not the UEFA version. The member clubs voted this rule in, and voted it in exactly the same way as they have voted in every single other policy from minor things trivial items right up to points deductions for administration etc. Clubs vote and accept the democratic ruling. They're the rules of FL membership.