Sold your soul to the devil or progression

[armchairclubber]

some valid points and observations I think, quite happy if the swearing levels are lower than other grounds, though my impression is that there are quite a few teens / twenties etc where an albion game just fits in to part of their hedonistic weekend with as much drink and drug taking as possible, part of the Brighton lifestyle, they happen to live in the area for now but would also question are they really fans ?

Had to have a word with one totally embarrassing tool drinking as much cider as he could shouting and swearing his mouth off about his drug exploits on the train last weekend, looked like his first ever albion game

Im afraid we will never see anything like the partisan eastern Europe teams support as seen on various youtube clips at the Amex, though some may dream.

 

[the right footed denilson]

Ha, that must have taken you ages to write!!
What a goon!

 

[jamie (not that one)]

New to the board and new to the club. The Derby game was my first Brighton game as I've moved to the area and decided to support the local team and be a season ticket holder. I've come away with mixed emotions because watching Brighton turned out to be a unique experience compared to other football league clubs, I'm still unsure if the differences are good or bad. To get it off my chest I will list the differences and perhaps someone can let me know if it has always been this way or is the move the Amex the reason?

1. All other football league clubs I've been to still have a clear working class support. Not evident at Brighton. Has this always been the way. My memories of the Goldstone was a typical bleak ground with concrete terracing and corrugated roof. I couldn't imagine half of the supporters I saw feeling comfortable in those surroundings and so have you attracted a big chunk of newer cricket/rugby/middle class/prawn sandwich/whatever you want to call them type of supporters?
2. From speaking to the people around me I couldn't find anyone born and bread in Brighton and so had Albion in their blood. Seems to be a lot of tourist supporters like me who have adopted Brighton as their second club. This is good for revenue, but surely part of the passion and soul of the club is eroded away. They will never care about the club as someone who has only supported the one club all their life. Fair play to those that do.
3. Lack of passion. I couldn't believe how many people I saw walking away from the stadium who had a smile on their face and were just continuing as though nothing bad had just happened. Surely if you cared about the club a loss would seriously p*ss you off for the weekend, kick the cat etc. Probably all to do with points one and two.
4. The stadium is amazing, but everything seems a bit too sanitised. Going to the Albion is clearly a safe and welcoming place for families, but is it at the price of losing the traditional football experience. Growing up I am glad I experienced football a bit more rougher around the edges, but at the same time I am a hypocrite because I would rather my kids went to the safer, sanitised Brighton. Not sure if the change is a good thing.
5. I've seen on other threads about issues with swearing at the ground. Firstly I was amazed how little swearing I heard compared to my club or any other I've been to. Unfortunately you can't have it both ways. If you want to attract the new type of supporters then you have got to accept the loss of the more edgier side of the support. Again, not sure if the change is a good thing.
6. The marketing is the biggest eye opener for anybody going to Brighton when compared to most other FL clubs. Never seen so many men/women wearing replica shirts. That is frowned upon at a lot of clubs, but I suppose once again it gets away from the association with the old days of football violence and suits your new image and coffers for the club. Never seen so many people drinking so early before the game in the ground. Obviously this is due to the location of the Amex, but even so it is very impressive when you consider the amount of match day revenue you gain compared to other clubs.

So, my question is, have you consciously sold your soul to the devil and changed from a typically rougher football club in the name of money and progress or were Brighton always a cut above the rest?

That's my lot. Not sure if anybody is interested or cares about my views. As I've admitted I'm not real Albion and so wont get ideas above my station making too many comments on here, but for good or bad me and my kids will be supporting the team. The football played way an eye opener, but I will keep that too myself. Finally a personal wish. Please tell me that the shouting of oooh you're shit arrrrr when the keeper kicks the ball is a one off on Saturday. It is so cringing to hear as it was stopped about 20 year ago because it was old hat and childish. The Derby supporters were cracking up when they heard the North Stand doing it. Presume it was kids, but even so, very embarrassing. I know I shouldn't slag the support off, but I would do the same with whoever shouted that, it's just wrong.

Welcome to the area, the Albion and NSC. Judging by the above you'll get on with a few of the posters on here.

 

[BadFish]

Still online, so he must be happy with the responses.

Poor effort if you ask me, not exactly a tough place to start a binfest but this has failed miserably.

 

[Brovion]

New to the board and new to the club. The Derby game was my first Brighton game as I've moved to the area and decided to support the local team and be a season ticket holder. I've come away with mixed emotions because watching Brighton turned out to be a unique experience compared to other football league clubs, I'm still unsure if the differences are good or bad. To get it off my chest I will list the differences and perhaps someone can let me know if it has always been this way or is the move the Amex the reason?

1. All other football league clubs I've been to still have a clear working class support. Not evident at Brighton. Has this always been the way. My memories of the Goldstone was a typical bleak ground with concrete terracing and corrugated roof. I couldn't imagine half of the supporters I saw feeling comfortable in those surroundings and so have you attracted a big chunk of newer cricket/rugby/middle class/prawn sandwich/whatever you want to call them type of supporters?
2. From speaking to the people around me I couldn't find anyone born and bread in Brighton and so had Albion in their blood. Seems to be a lot of tourist supporters like me who have adopted Brighton as their second club. This is good for revenue, but surely part of the passion and soul of the club is eroded away. They will never care about the club as someone who has only supported the one club all their life. Fair play to those that do.
3. Lack of passion. I couldn't believe how many people I saw walking away from the stadium who had a smile on their face and were just continuing as though nothing bad had just happened. Surely if you cared about the club a loss would seriously p*ss you off for the weekend, kick the cat etc. Probably all to do with points one and two.
4. The stadium is amazing, but everything seems a bit too sanitised. Going to the Albion is clearly a safe and welcoming place for families, but is it at the price of losing the traditional football experience. Growing up I am glad I experienced football a bit more rougher around the edges, but at the same time I am a hypocrite because I would rather my kids went to the safer, sanitised Brighton. Not sure if the change is a good thing.
5. I've seen on other threads about issues with swearing at the ground. Firstly I was amazed how little swearing I heard compared to my club or any other I've been to. Unfortunately you can't have it both ways. If you want to attract the new type of supporters then you have got to accept the loss of the more edgier side of the support. Again, not sure if the change is a good thing.
6. The marketing is the biggest eye opener for anybody going to Brighton when compared to most other FL clubs. Never seen so many men/women wearing replica shirts. That is frowned upon at a lot of clubs, but I suppose once again it gets away from the association with the old days of football violence and suits your new image and coffers for the club. Never seen so many people drinking so early before the game in the ground. Obviously this is due to the location of the Amex, but even so it is very impressive when you consider the amount of match day revenue you gain compared to other clubs.

So, my question is, have you consciously sold your soul to the devil and changed from a typically rougher football club in the name of money and progress or were Brighton always a cut above the rest?

That's my lot. Not sure if anybody is interested or cares about my views. As I've admitted I'm not real Albion and so wont get ideas above my station making too many comments on here, but for good or bad me and my kids will be supporting the team. The football played way an eye opener, but I will keep that too myself. Finally a personal wish. Please tell me that the shouting of oooh you're shit arrrrr when the keeper kicks the ball is a one off on Saturday. It is so cringing to hear as it was stopped about 20 year ago because it was old hat and childish. The Derby supporters were cracking up when they heard the North Stand doing it. Presume it was kids, but even so, very embarrassing. I know I shouldn't slag the support off, but I would do the same with whoever shouted that, it's just wrong.

*Stands and applauds*

That is a LOT of effort and I'm sorry I didn't read all of it. Most people usually just give us a variation on 'u iz all gay skum'.

 

[Goldstone1976]

 

[theonesmith]

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Forgot just how grim that stadium is. Thanks for reminding me!

 

[raba]

Out of interest I'd like to hear who the OP's 'real team' is.

I can't honestly see myself or any other Palace write such a long post, with paragraphs & thoughtfully constructed.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

half groat is having his two pennorth's worth of opinion. (see what I did there?)

That's about all his opinion is worth.

 

[upthealbion1970]

New to the board and new to the club. The Derby game was my first Brighton game as I've moved to the area and decided to support the local team and be a season ticket holder. I've come away with mixed emotions because watching Brighton turned out to be a unique experience compared to other football league clubs, I'm still unsure if the differences are good or bad. To get it off my chest I will list the differences and perhaps someone can let me know if it has always been this way or is the move the Amex the reason?

1. All other football league clubs I've been to still have a clear working class support. Not evident at Brighton. Has this always been the way. My memories of the Goldstone was a typical bleak ground with concrete terracing and corrugated roof. I couldn't imagine half of the supporters I saw feeling comfortable in those surroundings and so have you attracted a big chunk of newer cricket/rugby/middle class/prawn sandwich/whatever you want to call them type of supporters?
2. From speaking to the people around me I couldn't find anyone born and bread in Brighton and so had Albion in their blood. Seems to be a lot of tourist supporters like me who have adopted Brighton as their second club. This is good for revenue, but surely part of the passion and soul of the club is eroded away. They will never care about the club as someone who has only supported the one club all their life. Fair play to those that do.
3. Lack of passion. I couldn't believe how many people I saw walking away from the stadium who had a smile on their face and were just continuing as though nothing bad had just happened. Surely if you cared about the club a loss would seriously p*ss you off for the weekend, kick the cat etc. Probably all to do with points one and two.
4. The stadium is amazing, but everything seems a bit too sanitised. Going to the Albion is clearly a safe and welcoming place for families, but is it at the price of losing the traditional football experience. Growing up I am glad I experienced football a bit more rougher around the edges, but at the same time I am a hypocrite because I would rather my kids went to the safer, sanitised Brighton. Not sure if the change is a good thing.
5. I've seen on other threads about issues with swearing at the ground. Firstly I was amazed how little swearing I heard compared to my club or any other I've been to. Unfortunately you can't have it both ways. If you want to attract the new type of supporters then you have got to accept the loss of the more edgier side of the support. Again, not sure if the change is a good thing.
6. The marketing is the biggest eye opener for anybody going to Brighton when compared to most other FL clubs. Never seen so many men/women wearing replica shirts. That is frowned upon at a lot of clubs, but I suppose once again it gets away from the association with the old days of football violence and suits your new image and coffers for the club. Never seen so many people drinking so early before the game in the ground. Obviously this is due to the location of the Amex, but even so it is very impressive when you consider the amount of match day revenue you gain compared to other clubs.

So, my question is, have you consciously sold your soul to the devil and changed from a typically rougher football club in the name of money and progress or were Brighton always a cut above the rest?

That's my lot. Not sure if anybody is interested or cares about my views. As I've admitted I'm not real Albion and so wont get ideas above my station making too many comments on here, but for good or bad me and my kids will be supporting the team. The football played way an eye opener, but I will keep that too myself. Finally a personal wish. Please tell me that the shouting of oooh you're shit arrrrr when the keeper kicks the ball is a one off on Saturday. It is so cringing to hear as it was stopped about 20 year ago because it was old hat and childish. The Derby supporters were cracking up when they heard the North Stand doing it. Presume it was kids, but even so, very embarrassing. I know I shouldn't slag the support off, but I would do the same with whoever shouted that, it's just wrong.

 

[theboybilly]

Forgot just how grim that stadium is. Thanks for reminding me!

I've been all around that dump of a ground yet never noticed Mrs Miggins' Pie Shoppe tucked in the corner

 

[BuddyBoy]

I really can't see that this is trolling.

Sure, some of the points seem poorly informed and ridiculous, but he/she has made it clear they don't wish to go above their 'station'. They've written half an essay with points based on, it seems, genuine interest.

Stupid idea. Not worth entertaining, but certainly not rotten troll-ism.

 

[hybrid_x]

real football died in the 90's when all seaters came in.

 

[KZNSeagull]

All Brighton supporters are working class. We just start at a much classier level that those from Croydon.

 

[CheeseRolls]

1,2&3 as a new season ticket holder, there is a good chance you are sitting amongst a group of new season ticket holders.

4 not just Brighton, football is more expensive and more comfortable with few exceptions. You can go and see "traditional" premiership football up the A23, but your kids won't thank you for that.

5 see the North stand thread.

6 Not sure I get the replica shirt point really. I don't think we are exceptional in this at all. Transport plus good beer and food add up to good match day revenue.

Supplementary - vive la difference, who wants to support an identikit club anyway ?

 

[TheMajor]

Half scroat - get yourself back to the "2bit" where you can enjoy a real football experience - piss in the bogs,half empty stadium and everybody knows everybody else.

 

[dougdeep]

real football died in the 90's when all seaters came in.

I'd say it died when they introduced the Premier League.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Half scroat - get yourself back to the "2bit" where you can enjoy a real football experience - piss in the bogs,half empty stadium and everybody is related to everybody else.

Fixed it for you.

 

[BLOCK F]

I'd say it died when they introduced the Premier League.

Lot of truth in this ,I think.

 

[Bwian]

Wow! You almost had me fooled!!!

That's easily done...