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More Gus-related disclosures from Paul Barber; if this stuff bores you, do not open thread



Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,867
Brighton
You are spot on, Icy, but there are too many who want to blame Barber for anything and everything, but will ignore what you've written because they don't want to blame Tony.

They know you're right but can't bring themselves to criticise Tony because of all he has done for the club.

Sad but predictable.

This all day and all night and all day again.
 




wallyback

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2011
1,406
Brighton
I think too many people are looking at this from behind blue eyes when you think about no one knows what is like to be the bad man.

But will we get fooled again!

I'll ask My wife. She knows a Bargain when she sees one.
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,690
Crap Town
Closing that shop would be very short-sighted in my opinion.
Not if the club have it in mind to open a shop in Western Road/Churchill Square , we'll have to wait and see what the outcome is.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,867
Brighton
Sure but it cuts both ways. The club could have put an arm round Gus and smoothed things over, after all this was the day after the disaster and no one would have been at their best. That they chose not to, tells us that the relationship had reached a point of no return and all of the speculation is as to how we got to this point.

Incidentally do you think that Gus actually wanted to stay on as manager ? I suspect he was ready and willing to go, it is just the label, gross misconduct that he seems to object to. I also suspect that he had a deadline to agree to a compromise agreement and failed to do so. An 18:00 deadline would explain the Poyetgate TV sacking.

Yes and my point is we need to get back FURTHER. Why didn't Gus want to carry on? He was very happy here previously, and the relationship with Tony was very, very good. I refuse to believe he made a massive u turn on all of that for no reason whatsoever. It doesn't add up.
 




Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,907
Brighton
I feel sorry for Barber. All this criticism of him and treating him like the devil must get to him, must be depressing, and really, no one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
I feel sorry for Barber. All this criticism of him and treating him like the devil must get to him, must be depressing, and really, no one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man.

Has he got blue eyes?
 






Sergei's Celebration

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2010
3,610
I've come back home.
Queens Road has been the wrong location for the shop to be for the last couple of seasons. A shop in the square / Western road would have a significant increase in footfall and impulse / passing trade. Closing down the shop and scoping another one makes perfect sense.
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
I feel sorry for Barber. All this criticism of him and treating him like the devil must get to him, must be depressing, and really, no one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man.

Just wondering if it makes him yearn for The Punk & The Godfather...

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Aug 23, 2011
1,864
I feel sorry for Barber. All this criticism of him and treating him like the devil must get to him, must be depressing, and really, no one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man.

I'm fairly sure he has a thick enough skin to cope however i do know what you mean. Do you think he's the "hate" figure because the season hasn't really started and they can't blame Barnes yet?
 




soistes

Well-known member
Sep 12, 2012
2,643
Brighton
I would love to see the business model that increases profits by keeping shops that lose money.

This -- I work round the corner to the Queens Road shop, and every time I go in it's virtually empty, with a few staff hanging around doing nothing. It would surprise me if takings came anywhere near covering rent, staff and other running costs.
 








The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
Queens Road has been the wrong location for the shop to be for the last couple of seasons. A shop in the square / Western road would have a significant increase in footfall and impulse / passing trade. Closing down the shop and scoping another one makes perfect sense.

The main thing about that is the rents and rates in Western Road / Churchill Square will be quite a bit higher than in Queens Road. The shop would have to be significantly larger / better than the current one to justify any new premises.

While I agree it's VITAL that the club has some presence in the city centre, I can see a scenario where the accountants / bean-counters tut-tutting, moaning about the expense without the proven or necessary income.
 






Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,212
Quite a few clubs have gone into Administration following a move to a new ground, off the top of my head i can think of Millwall, Middlesborough, Coventry. (Southampton?)

If we were to allow overspending to occur and the club to lose serious amounts of money, we could end up following their example and ending up in admin ourselves (what would happen to Blooms investments in the club then?)

It would be interesting to find out all the other clubs that went into admin in a new ground, and to have facts and figures for other clubs following moves, and see if they all had similar financial issues and how long it took them to resolve.
 




Having real difficulty following - will just have to wait for the Barber thread done in Smiths lyrics :down:
 




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