ITV offends with coloured remark

[arfer guinness]

I've just read an article where ITV producers have been reprimanded for using the term coloured to describe football players and coaches. The news item concerned racism in football and how it has changed but stated even now there are only three coloured managers in the game. Excuse me for being thick but what is the acceptable description of someone who isn't white.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

I've just read an article where ITV producers have been reprimanded for using the term coloured to describe football players and coaches. The news item concerned racism in football and how it has changed but stated even now there are only three coloured managers in the game. Excuse me for being thick but what is the acceptable description of someone who isn't white.

Black apparently is the correct term. But I say f*** em, if you don't mean it in a racist way it's not racist. No-one has problems calling me white which is basically exactly the same.

 

[arfer guinness]

Black apparently is the correct term. But I say f*** em, if you don't mean it in a racist way it's not racist. No-one has problems calling me white which is basically exactly the same.

I've also heard black is offensive because a lot of "coloured" people claim to be shades of brown.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

'Coloured' is considered by many to be a problematic term, and with valid justification, in my opinion, especially as it suggests white folk are somehow beyond colour, and beyond ethnicity or race, and therefore the 'norm'. Nevertheless, it is clear that no malice was intended by the ITV producers, that it was used in a descriptive rather than pejorative context. 'Black and minority ethnic group' is what has been used in recent decades and is generally regarded as more accepted by the people the term is trying to describe.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

I've also heard black is offensive because a lot of "coloured" people claim to be shades of brown.

Well, there is no universal rule of what 'is' offensive in all of this, rather terms that people 'consider to be' offensive.

 

[sir albion]

It's becoming a joke at times that this is offensive,seems whites really are getting battered at times,surely coloured,black etc is not offensive?

I give up i really do grrrrrr

 

[Waynflete]

10 pages

 

[sir albion]

Or people looking for a quick buck which is the norm these days.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

It's becoming a joke at times that this is offensive,seems whites really are getting battered at times,surely coloured,black etc is not offensive?

I give up i really do grrrrrr

Why are you so quick to play the victim card here? As far as I can see, no one is accusing anyone of racism. We are just discussing the terms people wish to be called.

 

[sir albion]

It's all so pathetic!

Race is an archaic concept that doesn't even exist! People have different shades of skin, just as they have different coloured eyes and hair, differing body shapes and sizes etc.

Why is "race" even singled out?? You don't get surveys about how many ginger managers there are, or how many managers under 5'6" there are? So why the f*** is there even a discussion about why there are only a few managers with dark skin in football management?

The discussion is racist, more so than the wording! People with darker skin are not a different type of person, so they should not be discussed as if they are.

O really,so why do the fa look to attract more black managers?if we didn't do this we would be slated and called racists,this is the stuff that has to be tolerated.

 

[Triggaaar]

It's becoming a joke at times that this is offensive,seems whites really are getting battered at times,surely coloured,black etc is not offensive?

So you don't mind if people call you coloured?

 

[sir albion]

Why are you so quick to play the victim card here? As far as I can see, no one is accusing anyone of racism. We are just discussing the terms people wish to be called.

According to the thread title people have been reprimanded,that's good enough for me to debate on.Why am i playing the victim mmmm that's nonsense,im pointing out that it's a ridiculous thing.

 

[sir albion]

So you don't mind if people call you coloured?

To a white man diffrent coloured skins are coloured end of,calling a white man coloured is just stupid don't you think?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Black is the absence of colour, isn't it?

 

[matthew]

Happened to that **** on MOTD saying 'coloured' we are all equal but some are more equal than others and gingers are not equal at all.

 

[matthew]

Black is the absence of colour, isn't it?

Clearly that's white

 

[Triggaaar]

To a white man diffrent coloured skins are coloured end of,calling a white man coloured is just stupid don't you think?

No I don't. White people clearly aren't white. They're yellow/red. Black is as colourless as white. The idea of calling someone coloured is to start with the assumption that one race is the normal, and that the others aren't. It's a shit term coined by racist (ignorant) white people.

 

[sir albion]

Black is the absence of colour, isn't it?

Not goner go on with you lot on here as its clear that anyone with a diffrent colour is right,blacks etc were called coloured for decades here and now it's unacceptable for some strange reason.

That's my point

 

[Vegas Seagull]

'Coloured' is considered by many to be a problematic term, and with valid justification, in my opinion, especially as it suggests white folk are somehow beyond colour, and beyond ethnicity or race, and therefore the 'norm'. Nevertheless, it is clear that no malice was intended by the ITV producers, that it was used in a descriptive rather than pejorative context. 'Black and minority ethnic group' is what has been used in recent decades and is generally regarded as more accepted by the people the term is trying to describe.

Martin Luther King didn't think so & used it in his 'Rivers of Blood' speech and he is a better guide than most as to appropriateness or otherwise

 

[Triggaaar]

blacks etc were called coloured for decades here and now it's unacceptable for some strange reason.

It was deemed acceptable by a completely racist country. It was also acceptable to make children work in factories not that long ago. The fact is, it wasn't right then, and it's not right now.