Will Tony Bloom allow gus to spend his millions this summer.

[bhawoddy]

No chairman has a relationshp with a manager where costs are not a factor.

But I am positive that as Bloom has allowed Poyet to spend huge cash, certainly huge cash for us, will to be wondering why none of them were demmed good enough to start the most important game of the season for us yesterday.

A question you will never get an answer to Burnsy!

I was amazed at the team selection yesterday as my mate read it out to me. i honestly thought when he said Marcos Painter he was joking. Having said all this, im all for seeing what Poyet does in the next few months before i make a judgement on him.
Im also amazed Greer has managed to slip through the net in the blaming stakes. All season he has struggled to win a header and seems to be getting slower week after week as the forwards are turning him inside out. Check the second goal yesterday, he let vaz te head it in without even jumping or making a decent effort to stop him. f***ing dreadful from a 6ft4 centre back. I can also think of a few other times he has missed vital headers and the other team has gone on to score - leeds at home was on, forest away was another. He is good on the deck and thats his only saving grace. Did anyone see him blaming others yesterday for his own cock ups. Great captaincy!!!

 

[Mr Burns]

I see a lot of the usual apoloists who love to have a go at my threads have convently overlooked this one.

Seems even they are struggling to support Gus after yesterday

Personally if I was Bloom, I would be asking Gus why none of his top signings were not included for our most important game of the season.

 

[seagullk]

total agree gus buying been poor should have bought a decent goalkeeper hoskins crap cms poor paying big wage for limping vicente most games got 3 or 4 players on loan playing even one of them buggered off razak gus plays on his name as a world class player in old times but done okay this season

 

[Arkwright]

Why should Bloom spend "His Millions" shouldn't the club be self financing?

Can't keep on knocking on Bloom's door, gently gently and we will reach our goal but get things sorted off the pitch to resolve issues on the pitch. So much is right with the club, please try to look at the positives.

I do feel a lot of this is total over reaction to a pants day at Upton Park.

 

[Mr Burns]

A question you will never get an answer to Burnsy!

I was amazed at the team selection yesterday as my mate read it out to me. i honestly thought when he said Marcos Painter he was joking. Having said all this, im all for seeing what Poyet does in the next few months before i make a judgement on him.
Im also amazed Greer has managed to slip through the net in the blaming stakes. All season he has struggled to win a header and seems to be getting slower week after week as the forwards are turning him inside out. Check the second goal yesterday, he let vaz te head it in without even jumping or making a decent effort to stop him. f***ing dreadful from a 6ft4 centre back. I can also think of a few other times he has missed vital headers and the other team has gone on to score - leeds at home was on, forest away was another. He is good on the deck and thats his only saving grace. Did anyone see him blaming others yesterday for his own cock ups. Great captaincy!!!

Oooh no. You can't critise Greer on here, people wont have that. Although we have two central defenders who cannot win a header between them is not something that can be discussed here, without you being told you dont know anything about football. The fact our two centre halfs dive in a lot, make them look class to some. Adam ElAbd bleeds blue and white, and will die for the course, no doubt about that, he's a Brighton legends hard as nails and a fans favorutie, but a championship centre half!!! He can't head the ball!!! Play him with Dunk, maybe, but I can't see how we can have two central defenders who can't win a header between them. Gus obviosuly can though!!

 

[Mr Burns]

Why should Bloom spend "His Millions" shouldn't the club be self financing?

Can't keep on knocking on Bloom's door, gently gently and we will reach our goal but get things sorted off the pitch to resolve issues on the pitch. So much is right with the club, please try to look at the positives.

I do feel a lot of this is total over reaction to a pants day at Upton Park.

But its not reaction to a pants day at Upton Park. Its reaction from a lot of strange descessions this season, particaully in the last month or so. As I said, no one worries about the odd freak result, they happen. It's when all and sundry can see it coming, thats when its a problem.

 

[KZNSeagull]

TB and Gus have both said on numerous occasions that there is a 5 year plan in force to build the club up and get to the Prem league.

We are coming to the end of Year 2.

TB will give Gus an appropriate budget based upon that 5 year plan.

I would be extremely surprised and disappointed if TB changed his mind 2/5's of the way through the plan, particularly when things are still going according to that plan.

So, yes is the answer.

Besides, Gus has said that he wants all transfer dealings done and dusted by the start of pre-season which may suggest that he has already spent some of the budget.

 

[Mr Burns]

I didn't say whether they were a factor. Of course they are. I'm wondering the extent to which they are an interfering factor. This is the first season of 'big spending'. Other clubs have had that for years at the level we haven't managed to attain previously - so we have started from further back. And it is huge cash for us - but not the kind of cash needed to be a full-blown challenger for promotion.

Important for you, possibly. Important for West Ham, certainly.

Important for Gus? Doubt it - can't see it myself. Nor are the next three, aside from the old mantra of 'the next game is the most important'. He seemed totally relaxed about the whole play-off push thing - not a man desperate to get there at whatever cost this season. He knows there's always next season, and if the improvement of the past couple of seasons continues, we'll be there again, better prepared, and hopefully physically stronger.

So you don't think a game that makes or breaks your season is the most important? I do.

By the tone of your reply, are you suggesting that Poyet gave up on this season a few games ago, and purposly has changed things so results go against us, so we don't go up?

Out of interest, if yesterdays game wasn't the most important of the season, what games do you thing were more important than it?

 

[Twinkle Toes]

It depends on on how much money TB will make available; & whether he decides to keep Gus as the Manager.

Hope that helps.

 

[Arkwright]

But its not reaction to a pants day at Upton Park. Its reaction from a lot of strange descessions this season, particaully in the last month or so. As I said, no one worries about the odd freak result, they happen. It's when all and sundry can see it coming, thats when its a problem.

If that is the case we are looking at Bloom spending money on a new manager not just players, now that is a different question.

 

[The Large One]

So you don't think a game that makes or breaks your season is the most important? I do.

By the tone of your reply, are you suggesting that Poyet gave up on this season a few games ago, and purposly has changed things so results go against us, so we don't go up?

Out of interest, if yesterdays game wasn't the most important of the season, what games do you thing were more important than it?

I know you think that. That's the fifth time you've mentioned it on this thread.

It's not a make-or-break game. If we're still within a shout of reaching the play-offs, what has been made or broken? If we've have won, would that have guaranteed our berth in the play-offs? No. Of course, it has hindered our chances in a way that a win would have enhanced them - but make-or-break? No.

No, I don't think Gus gave up on the season, though losing to Burnley and Reading may have hardened one or two opinions he'd had (like we're not good enough) - and tried to get ahead of the curve by planning for next season already.

I don't think in terms of which is the most important game of the season - aside from 'the next game being the most important'. I let Sky cub reporters do that.

 

[Diego Napier]

TB and Gus have both said on numerous occasions that there is a 5 year plan in force to build the club up and get to the Prem league.

We are coming to the end of Year 2.

TB will give Gus an appropriate budget based upon that 5 year plan.

I would be extremely surprised and disappointed if TB changed his mind 2/5's of the way through the plan, particularly when things are still going according to that plan.

So, yes is the answer.

Besides, Gus has said that he wants all transfer dealings done and dusted by the start of pre-season which may suggest that he has already spent some of the budget.

Thank you. A sensible post that will unfortunately not be a sufficient counter to all the hysteria, sensationalism and tabloid-like simplism posted on this thread.

 

[Mr Burns]

I know you think that. That's the fifth time you've mentioned it on this thread.

It's not a make-or-break game. If we're still within a shout of reaching the play-offs, what has been made or broken? If we've have won, would that have guaranteed our berth in the play-offs? No. Of course, it has hindered our chances in a way that a win would have enhanced them - but make-or-break? No.

No, I don't think Gus gave up on the season, though losing to Burnley and Reading may have hardened one or two opinions he'd had (like we're not good enough) - and tried to get ahead of the curve by planning for next season already.

I don't think in terms of which is the most important game of the season - aside from 'the next game being the most important'. I let Sky cub reporters do that.

Oh come on. You seriosuly think we are with a chance of the play offs now. Theres too many sides around us now, and I think 3 wins will not be enough now.

Okay I agree that yesterday wouldn't of made our season, but it certainly broke it.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Before the apologists go "oh just another long Gus bashing thread" or remind us where we were two years ago, just look at yesterday.

There's no doubt that we have money to spend this summer, but look at how wisely Gus used that money last summer in relation to his sqaud.

Now, West Ham was probably our most important game of the season, the biggest MUST WIN game we had this season and Gus' top signings thus follows

Record Signing Hoskins 500k - Out of Loan
Next Record Signing Buckley £1m - Not in squad/Dropped
Next Record broke CMS £3.25 if he decides to hang around if not £2.5m - On Bench
LuaLua Rumoured at £1m plus - On Bench
Noone Turn down over £1m bid - On Bench

Starting line up total cost £250,000
Bench/not picked cost - Over £6,000,000

They are the type of figures you see in the paper around FA Cup round 3 time, when the non leaguers take on a bigger club

IT WAS A MUST WIN GAME. Most important game of the season

WE LOST 6-0 and can be grateful it wasn't more

Pretend you are the chairman

Your manager does not fail to mention in nearly every interview the budget of the club

You allow manager to spend £6m (which is incredible for a club like us) of your money and in a must win game the team that starts costs £250k and the bench costs around 25 times that and you lose 6-0

Would you as chairman not be a little pissed off. Would allow the manager to splash your cash again, when clearly he hasn't brought players he can use in his system the first time around??

Of course your Maths is off ...as you state bench cost 6million....well noone didn't cost 1 million...lua lua well....that's rumour over fee...knock out Hoskins who isent on the bench but as u say out on loan....I'm sure Gus thought he would have been playing more up at Sheffield...re CMS well at the mo it's only 2.5 ...so to say we had 6 mill that we spent on the bench is a tad wrong

 

[LamieRobertson]

Oh come on. You seriosuly think we are with a chance of the play offs now. Theres too many sides around us now, and I think 3 wins will not be enough now.

Okay I agree that yesterday wouldn't of made our season, but it certainly broke it.

Hardly broke our season.....ended our play off chances ...probably

 

[sir albion]

Nobody has mentioned the 2 argies, Sandaza, or money paid for Chris Holroyd,

and then there is Mr Ryan Harley...... 250k well spent?

Maybe Gus, as much as I love him, is a top coach but not so adept in the market

Good point about harley,gus chased him for bloody ages and i think he got a two year deal,wonder how much that lazy shower of shite is on?6k a week+?
We have a large squad and many average players that needs to be trimmed down somehow.
Still shocked that gus played such a dire team at westham and looking at the money players that didn't play makes it even worse.

 

[Teddy Maybank]

Is our manager bad?
Has this been a crap season?

Our first season back in the championship. We have flirted with the playoffs and at times, played brilliant football against clubs we would have dreamt about competing with a couple of years ago. Vicente. KLL. Buckley.
Gus has been brilliant for our club.
We lost to Reading, west ham etc.
GET A GRIP!!!!

 

[LamieRobertson]

I know you think that. That's the fifth time you've mentioned it on this thread.

It's not a make-or-break game. If we're still within a shout of reaching the play-offs, what has been made or broken? If we've have won, would that have guaranteed our berth in the play-offs? No. Of course, it has hindered our chances in a way that a win would have enhanced them - but make-or-break? No.

No, I don't think Gus gave up on the season, though losing to Burnley and Reading may have hardened one or two opinions he'd had (like we're not good enough) - and tried to get ahead of the curve by planning for next season already.

I don't think in terms of which is the most important game of the season - aside from 'the next game being the most important'. I let Sky cub reporters do that.

Southampton without doubt ....and I don't think it needs explaining ....also an argument could be made for doncaster ...lose yur first lot of games and it's hard to recover ...ask the team we beat

 

[bhawoddy]

Good point about harley,gus chased him for bloody ages and i think he got a two year deal,wonder how much that lazy shower of shite is on?6k a week+?
We have a large squad and many average players that needs to be trimmed down somehow.
Still shocked that gus played such a dire team at westham and looking at the money players that didn't play makes it even worse.

Very hard to disagree with these posts.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Very hard to disagree with these posts.

But predictable from some that have been saying the same old stuff day after day after day