Gus Poyet - right or wrong?

[Mr Blobby]

Football premier-league: Exclusive - Poyet: 'Luis Suarez is 100% not a racist' | Radio talkSPORT

Reading that article what Poyet is saying makes perfect sense. I did not hear the interview or read the other articles, but this one reads well to me.

The Irish press this week have picked up on the "English obsession" with things such as racism etc etc, I think we have gone PC over anything everyone says.

There is no place for racism anywhere, but people get picked up on any single little comment and when you take things out of context they can be made to look bad (and deliberatly so in most cases)

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Football premier-league: Exclusive - Poyet: 'Luis Suarez is 100% not a racist' | Radio talkSPORT

He says what he thinks, which compared to the lies and platitudes of politicians is refreshing.

 

[Easy 10]

The really disappointing thing through all of this is that if one of our own players gets racially abused, he now knows that he will get ZERO support from his own manager.

 

[Bold Seagull]

They're just about to play the whole interview live on Talksport...

 

[CHAPPERS]

Why on earth would Suarez use it then?

Makes no sense.

I think this is what the FA need to figure out.

Terry has been more backed than Suarez over this issue for f*** sake. What he MIGHT have said is much worse innit? He played as England captain the other day. The England manager backed him.

 

[Mellotron]

"I respect him as Fifa president but I don't listen to him when he talks about football" is a genius quote

That quote alone almost completely absolves him, due to its pure genuis. Almost.

 

[paddy]

By far the most damaging comment was this: "You are not racist when you go against one, but [you are] if you go against the whole world of different colour and nationalities." That is essentially condoning racism, whether or not he intended it to be interpreted as such.

If another manager had said that, how many people on here would be calling for his resignation?

 

[Driver8]

Gus is plainly wrong. We want people to drive on the left.

 

[The Large One]

The really disappointing thing through all of this is that if one of our own players gets racially abused, he now knows that he will get ZERO support from his own manager.

Now you KNOW that that's not true.

The whole point of his attitude in all this is (possibly over-) protecting his friends.

 

[Rusthall Seagull]

Anyone get the feeling the club will have to take a similar stance that the FA had to with Hoddle.

no, why would they ?

 

[Bold Seagull]

He says what he thinks, which compared to the lies and platitudes of politicians is refreshing.

Yeah because quotes like this:

He added: “I played with a player, and nobody knew him as Fernando Cáceres. Everyone knows him worldwide as Negro Caceres – even in the newspapers and on television they all him that. Is that racist? In England it is but in the rest of the world, in South America or Spain, it’s not. Because I read that 100 times in newspapers and I listen to TV programmes calling Fernando, a good friend of mine, Negro Caceres.

after our black players in the national team have monkey chants aimed at them every time they touch the ball in Spain is real evidence that Spain in particular is a beacon of racial integration...

 

[Rusthall Seagull]

The really disappointing thing through all of this is that if one of our own players gets racially abused, he now knows that he will get ZERO support from his own manager.

absolute bollocks

 

[W.C.]

He clearly should not have commented but I'd rather have a totally honest manager that one ran by a f***ing PR. Easier to keep your mouth shut, yes, but if he's asked a question honestly then I don't have too much of a problem with it. He's not exactly backing up Suarez as a racist is he? He's saying he doesn't think was Suarez was saying was a racist slur and that he think Suarez should not have been charged (and labelled a racist) before the facts have been confirmed.

He should NOT have used the words cry baby though, that was ill judged.

This.

On a vaguely related note, funny how Suarez gets all the diving cheating stuff chucked at him when, to my eyes, he is an incredibly exciting, very talented footballer who loves playing the game. A lot of people in England just seem to label him with the cheat thing because of where he comes from.

 

[ROSM]

The really disappointing thing through all of this is that if one of our own players gets racially abused, he now knows that he will get ZERO support from his own manager.

I don't think that what he said. He is disputing that suarez was being racist and that in the past when he was abused in Spain he ignored it. I'm sure that if say lua lua was subject to a string of offensive statements that gus would support him. Maybe not though if he wanted to lodge a complaint via the fa or press.

 

[Easy 10]

Now you KNOW that that's not true.

The whole point of his attitude in all is (possibly over-) protecting his friends.

Well how else can it be interpreted ? He's saying players shouldn't be cry-babies and just get on with it, like he did.

If (for example) Bridcutt was on the receiving end of racial abuse on the pitch, how can he now go to Gus if he wants it dealt with ? He'll know the response already won't he ?

 

[W.C.]

The really disappointing thing through all of this is that if one of our own players gets racially abused, he now knows that he will get ZERO support from his own manager.

I would say, as I kind of did earlier, that if it was one of our players, Poyet would go into overdrive protecting them.

 

[Mr Banana]

I have to say I love Gus quite a bit less today than yesterday.

I'm sure he'll be devastated.

The devil is in the detail - everyone knows Evra is making it up, and it's obvious Gus isn't racist - but, as ever, the insinuation is what counts. How far this spirals will depend on how high-profile the offended parties are.

 

[Tomnorthi]

10:30 on talksport.

 

[Seagull Steve]

You are not racist when you go against one, but [you are] if you go against the whole world of different colour and nationalities. That is being racist, not saying one word in one moment.

Not acceptable at all. We cannot have all of us up in arms about Blatter, but condone these words from Gus. Double standards people.

 

[Bold Seagull]

This.

On a vaguely related note, funny how Suarez gets all the diving cheating stuff chucked at him when, to my eyes, he is an incredibly exciting, very talented footballer who loves playing the game. A lot of people in England just seem to label him with the cheat thing because of where he comes from.

Oh come on, he is an exciting player, but he looks for free kicks in the same way Nani, Walcott, Torres and many other players do.