Independence for Scotland?

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Well Salmond has promised a referendum within the lifetime of this Parliament.

Is this the beginning of the end of the UK as we know it?

I hope not - and I guess so does the Labour Party - with all those Scottish Labour MPs at Westminster, their chances of ever winning an election in 'what's left' of the UK would be severley damaged.

Even though the SNP swept to power today, I really cant see the Scots going the whole hog.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Oh, two threads on the same subject started at the same time!

 

[glasfryn]

free medication

free university education

free care for the elderly

really great

but hang on a minute its not coming from any raised taxes in Scotland its the BRITISH taxpayers money yep let them have it methinks any voters with sense will throw this one out

 

[larus]

Please, please, please let them f*** off. See how they fare on their own without the English taxpayer funding them.

Also, really fed up of the Scottish vote giving us a Labour Government.

 

[vulture]

the jocks can do one they have sponged off us since 1707

 

[public school boy]

Give them their independence. Once they have it don't give them a penny of the English tax payers money.

 

[Joey Deacon's Disco Suit]

Agreed. Will be interesting to see how Salmond plans to fund it too with the major oil companies showing no interest in registering as Scottish companies and the bottom falling out of Scotland's plans to go running to the EU, cap in hand and asking for the same treatment as Ireland.

 

[Grendel]

If they're deluded enough to think they can go it alone then let them do it.

 

[Notters]

Does this mean we can have their S numberplates?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

What would we CALL what remains of the UK?

The monarchy would still be united - as it was from 1603 to 1707 - but I doubt if calling the nation the 'United Kingdom' would work any longer. And the Welsh and Ulstermen wouldn't tolerate the nation being called 'England'. 'Great Britain' is obviously ruled out as well since the island of GB includes Scotland.

Any ideas, anyone?

 

[Stoo82]

It would be called the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Still officialy the UK.

 

[Joey Deacon's Disco Suit]

Yeah. Kick out Wales as well and call us 'England'. The Ulstermen won't mind so much.

 

[Stoo82]

I dont mind the Welsh so much, they know which side their butter is on.

 

[beorhthelm]

thats easy, get shot of Ulster while we're at it.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

It would be called the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Still officialy the UK.

But the 'kingdom' would still include Scotland - since she would still be head of the Scottish royal family.

 

[Stoo82]

But the 'kingdom' would still include Scotland - since she would still be head of the Scottish royal family.

Is Cannada part of the UK?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

thats easy, get shot of Ulster while we're at it.

A quarter of it has gone already, of course. Are you saying that a vote by the Scots would be all that is needed to resolve 350-odd years of Irish troubles?

 

[paddy]

I dont mind the Welsh so much, they know which side their butter is on.

This. Let the Scots go if they want...within 20 years they'll be bankrupt and begging rejoin the union. Then the question would be whether or not we'd take then back...

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Is Cannada part of the UK?

That's my point. Canada started as a colony, not part of the UK.

There never was a Canadian crown. There was a Scottish crown and an English crown and they became united when James VI became James I as well.

What would we call the rump nation of England, Wales and Northern Ireland? Mentioning the monarchy in the name of the nation would surely be inappropriate?

 

[paddy]

That's my point. Canada started as a colony, not part of the UK.

There never was a Canadian crown. There was a Scottish crown and an English crown and they became united when James VI became James I as well.

What would we call the rump nation of England, Wales and Northern Ireland?

Surely we would simply have United Kingdom of England, Wales and NI. Then it would be up to the new Scots parliament to decide whether they intend to be a Republic or whether they intend to continue to have the Windsors as the constitutional monarchy of Scotland. If the latter, our monarchy would simply be the constitutional monarchs of two separate nations.