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HP Seagull

Danny Cullip: Hero
Sep 26, 2008
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For most of the game he was fine. Didn't seem to want to book anyone which is fine by me - cards are given all too easily these days.

But where, WHERE did five minutes come from? I don't think either physio came on once and there were only two yellow cards. Ankergren's time wasting was perfectly legal as the ball was in play, and no time should have been added on for that.

Then again, it wouldn't be the first time this season the ref wasn't particularly clued up on certain rules.
 






Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
When will people realise that time wasting is only when the ball is OUT of play. Ankergren plays possession football as the ball is still in play.

I imagine around about the same time people will realise that when some of us talk about Ankergren's time wasting we're talking about when he takes goal kicks - the way he typically walks across the front of the goal around the back as if he is chasing the last ball, walking behind the goal collecting the other ball from the ball boy walking back across the front of the goal to place the ball, going back kicking the mud off his boots, picking the mud out, shaping to play it short, shaping to play it long, shaping to play it short, before eventually booting it upfield (or playing it short). Having said that, he wasn't as bad with that today.

But it wasn't just ankergren, their keeper was up to it too. They'd get a free kick half way in their half, the defender would place the ball, walk away and the keeper would be "surprised" he was expected to take it then meander over, eating up a few seconds.

I can remember a couple of throw ins that took a while to be taken too.

So, let's have a look
3 goals during regular time in that second half at an average 30 seconds each, that's 1.5 minutes.
6 substitutions at an average of 30 seconds each, that's 3 minutes.

That's 4.5 minutes right there without taking into consideration the time wasting of Ankergren and Collin at goal kicks and any free kicks they took, it doesn't factor in the couple of throw ins, and other moments of free kicks, talking tos at corners for players jockeying around the goal keeper.

Then look at how much time was wasted in the celebration of the last two goals.

5 minutes (becoming 7) was entirely reasonable.

As for his performance with the rest of the game, I thought he was a little inconsistent with both teams, giving some small shoves, while ignoring body checks etc., but it wasn't particularly awful as far as league one officiating goes.

With regard to Elphick's booking, he dived in to take the player out in that "take one for the team" style. He didn't make contact with the ball, or the player (who made the most of it), but the intent was there, so I don't think anyone can complain about that booking.
 


I imagine around about the same time people will realise that when some of us talk about Ankergren's time wasting we're talking about when he takes goal kicks - the way he typically walks across the front of the goal around the back as if he is chasing the last ball, walking behind the goal collecting the other ball from the ball boy walking back across the front of the goal to place the ball, going back kicking the mud off his boots, picking the mud out, shaping to play it short, shaping to play it long, shaping to play it short, before eventually booting it upfield (or playing it short). Having said that, he wasn't as bad with that today.

But it wasn't just ankergren, their keeper was up to it too. They'd get a free kick half way in their half, the defender would place the ball, walk away and the keeper would be "surprised" he was expected to take it then meander over, eating up a few seconds.

I can remember a couple of throw ins that took a while to be taken too.

So, let's have a look
3 goals during regular time in that second half at an average 30 seconds each, that's 1.5 minutes.
6 substitutions at an average of 30 seconds each, that's 3 minutes.

That's 4.5 minutes right there without taking into consideration the time wasting of Ankergren and Collin at goal kicks and any free kicks they took, it doesn't factor in the couple of throw ins, and other moments of free kicks, talking tos at corners for players jockeying around the goal keeper.

Then look at how much time was wasted in the celebration of the last two goals.

5 minutes (becoming 7) was entirely reasonable.

As for his performance with the rest of the game, I thought he was a little inconsistent with both teams, giving some small shoves, while ignoring body checks etc., but it wasn't particularly awful as far as league one officiating goes.

With regard to Elphick's booking, he dived in to take the player out in that "take one for the team" style. He didn't make contact with the ball, or the player (who made the most of it), but the intent was there, so I don't think anyone can complain about that booking.

f*** me, do you always go to games with a stopwatch and pad and paper to "jot" all this down?
 


LABHA

New member
Feb 9, 2009
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Littlehampton,Wick actually
I imagine around about the same time people will realise that when some of us talk about Ankergren's time wasting we're talking about when he takes goal kicks - the way he typically walks across the front of the goal around the back as if he is chasing the last ball, walking behind the goal collecting the other ball from the ball boy walking back across the front of the goal to place the ball, going back kicking the mud off his boots, picking the mud out, shaping to play it short, shaping to play it long, shaping to play it short, before eventually booting it upfield (or playing it short). Having said that, he wasn't as bad with that today.

But it wasn't just ankergren, their keeper was up to it too. They'd get a free kick half way in their half, the defender would place the ball, walk away and the keeper would be "surprised" he was expected to take it then meander over, eating up a few seconds.

I can remember a couple of throw ins that took a while to be taken too.

So, let's have a look
3 goals during regular time in that second half at an average 30 seconds each, that's 1.5 minutes.
6 substitutions at an average of 30 seconds each, that's 3 minutes.

That's 4.5 minutes right there without taking into consideration the time wasting of Ankergren and Collin at goal kicks and any free kicks they took, it doesn't factor in the couple of throw ins, and other moments of free kicks, talking tos at corners for players jockeying around the goal keeper.

Then look at how much time was wasted in the celebration of the last two goals.

5 minutes (becoming 7) was entirely reasonable.

As for his performance with the rest of the game, I thought he was a little inconsistent with both teams, giving some small shoves, while ignoring body checks etc., but it wasn't particularly awful as far as league one officiating goes.

With regard to Elphick's booking, he dived in to take the player out in that "take one for the team" style. He didn't make contact with the ball, or the player (who made the most of it), but the intent was there, so I don't think anyone can complain about that booking.
Anorak
 




Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
f*** me, do you always go to games with a stopwatch and pad and paper to "jot" all this down?


No, I did not need a notepad to keep track of how many goals we scored and how many substitutions were made. If that makes one an anorak, we must have a lot of anoraks in the crowd, because I suspect most people there (and many listening at home) were able to keep track of the score and the subs without needing to take notes.
 


brightonrock

Dodgy Hamstrings
Jan 1, 2008
2,482
Thought he was pretty poor but not in Sheldrake's league. Ridiculous how many times he told their gobshite "one more" and yet let him get away with everything, should have given a pen when Sandaza got wrestled over, and then the added time was a joke. Was right to book Tommy for the lunge - but he knew exactly what he was doing. Took a booking for the team as they broke with spare men, some would see it as reckless but I thought that was the right thing to do - clean him out, take the card, reset for the free kick.
 






Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
47,183
at home
some bloke on the way out reckoned he was on a par with Prosser:bla:


I thought he was ok really
 


I doubt he does carry a pad and paper, I guess he's just vaguely observant and spots what 90% of others do.

Photographic memory?

buggered if anyone i know could recite those facts after being there.

You were there wren't you?
 


stss30

Registered User
Apr 24, 2008
9,549
Photographic memory?

buggered if anyone i know could recite those facts after being there.

You were there wren't you?
Bit of time wasting by both keepers- Yes I remember that
6 Subs- Yes I remember that
3 goals during regualar time in the 2nd half- Yes I remember that
Long celebrations after both goals in extra time- Yes I remember that

Photographic memory? No, just common sense
 




Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Photographic memory?

buggered if anyone i know could recite those facts after being there.

You were there wren't you?

What facts did I cite? The idea of 30 seconds per goal and 30 seconds per sub isn't something I came up with after years of study, it's just a generally accepted average. Even if I didn't keep track of how many subs or goals we had, the game ended three hours ago, that's plenty of time to have checked out how many goals we scored and how many substitutions were made.
 








Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
Elphick's yellow WAS justified...but so were 2 or 3 for Carlisle which he decided not to give. A bit like the ref for the Hartlepool home game when Barnes got the 1st yellow for nothing in particular, after refusing to dish any out for numerous horrendous tackles made by their players.

Forgot to mention the "offside" decision on Wood. From where I was he looked onside, but the immediate reaction from those in the South Stand in-line with play demonstrated the decision was wrong.

My view was 3 / 10 for the Ref.
 


Yes block J. Probably been to a damsite more games than you as well so pipe down.

I bow down to your keyboard wariorship.

you have no idea how many many games i've been to and yet yo somehow presume you've been to more.

I will "pipe down" as you are obviously "bigger" than me.
 


stss30

Registered User
Apr 24, 2008
9,549
I bow down to your keyboard wariorship.

you have no idea how many many games i've been to and yet yo somehow presume you've been to more.

I will "pipe down" as you are obviously "bigger" than me.
That's the sign of someone who's lost an argument :facepalm: Anyway, even if you have been to more games than me I'm sure you'll remember almost f*** all about the game, apart from maybe the score at a stretch.
 


Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
Poor ref 3/10.

How the hell did he miss the handball by their centre forward?

The barge on Sandaza was a blatant penalty, you will see hundreds of softer ones given.
 






That's the sign of someone who's lost an argument :facepalm: Anyway, even if you have been to more games than me I'm sure you'll remember almost f*** all about the game, apart from maybe the score at a stretch.

Why would i not remember the game? Are you assuming i "like a drink" on match day.
 


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