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Private Seat Licence at Falmer - Bargain or ???????













BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
£38 month for a year and guarantees my seat for life (aprt from paying for a season ticket)

At the moment, that's a good deal.

I have been asking and nobody has been able to give me an answer. What is to be gained by spending the £495 what makes it such a deal that everybody should want to buy a PSL. If the club needed the cash they would have done better to have said that if people paid up a non returnable £500 extra they would reduce their season ticket by £100 per year for the next 5 or 6 years and I feel sure that many would have put up their money and taken a chance on what division we were in or even that they would live that long.
 




Jim in the West

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 13, 2003
5,121
Way out West
I have been asking and nobody has been able to give me an answer. What is to be gained by spending the £495 what makes it such a deal that everybody should want to buy a PSL. If the club needed the cash they would have done better to have said that if people paid up a non returnable £500 extra they would reduce their season ticket by £100 per year for the next 5 or 6 years and I feel sure that many would have put up their money and taken a chance on what division we were in or even that they would live that long.

The idea is that the seat becomes YOURS, which you can pass on to whoever you like if you (a) die, or (b) decide you no longer want to go, etc. If you don't buy a PSL you can't pass it on. With a PSL you can also trade it (see the example in the club's literature). I would say that for those lucky enough to nab some of the best seats, it may well be very worthwhile to take out a PSL. If you end up getting a seat at ground level near one of the corners, I very much doubt it would be worth it.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,394
I have been asking and nobody has been able to give me an answer. What is to be gained by spending the £495 what makes it such a deal that everybody should want to buy a PSL. If the club needed the cash they would have done better to have said that if people paid up a non returnable £500 extra they would reduce their season ticket by £100 per year for the next 5 or 6 years and I feel sure that many would have put up their money and taken a chance on what division we were in or even that they would live that long.

PSL's are often used in America to help recoup the costs of building new stadiums or other high cost investments so how would a subsequent discount help? Its not necessarily about having instant cash in times of hardship (as was sometimes the case at Withdean)
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,394
I have been asking and nobody has been able to give me an answer. What is to be gained by spending the £495 what makes it such a deal that everybody should want to buy a PSL. If the club needed the cash they would have done better to have said that if people paid up a non returnable £500 extra they would reduce their season ticket by £100 per year for the next 5 or 6 years and I feel sure that many would have put up their money and taken a chance on what division we were in or even that they would live that long.

Think of getting a PSL as a way to be able to take a gamble that demand will outstrip supply for all ST's within the ground or maybe just in certain sections of it such as in the North Stand or on the half way line. The gamble gives the holder a chance to profit on owning a PSL, it also gives the club extra income from the initial purchases of the PSL and then the commission rate they take when you trade it on, thus raising extra revenue to put towards paying for the stadium / players etc...

By having a PSL, the owner would be able to then sell their 'seat' to someone else who may be keen to get a ST but doesn't want to join a queue on a waiting list (should the holder of the PSL decide that they no longer wish to keep going for whatever reason) - this excess demand is more likely to occur if, say, we get the the Premier League. - this is the market you would be gambling on.

Without a PSL though, should you wish to then hand your season ticket onto someone else after you have decided to stop watching the Albion, you wouldn't be able to do so (assuming there was a waiting list), therefore if there was a waiting list for new ST applications, the person you wanted to have your seat would have to join the list and the first name on the waiting list would get your seat instead.
 




timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,934
Sussex
....but couldn't you just let the other person use your ticket and set up a DD payable to you for the same amount as your DD to the club?
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
I am buying a season ticket for my self and Ben and my sons are buying theirs the only person I could see benefitting from me owning a PSL would be Ben if he had a child who wanted to go to football as I will use it until I am physically not able or medically too ill to attend matches. I am still not convinced it is a worthwhile purchase, perhaps it is just me and all the people I know who think this way. I do not personally know of 1 person who is considering buying one.
 


Roadrunner

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2003
626
Littlehampton
....but couldn't you just let the other person use your ticket and set up a DD payable to you for the same amount as your DD to the club?

Possibly, but who knows how strict they are going to be in monitoring people who use the swipe cards? When I went to the 1901 presentation we were told that the potential existed for the turnstiles to be linked to a photo database, thereby ensuring that the correct people were gaining access. Not sure how that would work when people had legitimately passed on their ticket on a single match basis (I believe some kind of ticket transfer scheme is being set up for just this reason).

In terms of passing on your season ticket when you die, at yesterday's presentation they used the Anfield scenario as an example. When reviewing their database recently Liverpool discovered that several 125+ year olds were still listed as season ticket holders! Obviously the deceased had unofficially handed down their season ticket option to decendants, leaving the ST details in the name of the deceased. All the PSL does is formalise this arrangement (and enable the club & licensee to profit from it, of course).

I'm seriously considering buying a PSL as a) I have a front row seat in the West upper near the halfway line and b) there's a good chance that I will be looking to relocate to the East Stand once my kids are old enough to come along regularly with me.
 


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