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bhamanandboy

New member
Feb 17, 2008
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Seen Brighton a few times this season but this was my first outing this year. From what I saw today, some things under poyet have changed for the better but some have remained the same. Thought it was a good game! Norwich were the better side overall, their passing game and movement was good and to be honest they should have been 2-0 up in 20 mins. They didn't take their chances and Brighton capitalized against the run of play. One thing that struck me vividly was the disappearing act from Alan Navarro. Crofts works tirelessly but Navarro is non existent. Exactly how he gets a game in front of Dicker is astonishing. The Defensive frailties were still plainly evident and it all seems too easy at times for teams to break us down. Until thats resolved it going to be difficult to win matches.
Holroyd looked out of his depth against 2 very big and strong centre halves and I think the missing Forster is a real thorn in Brightons side. He should be playing, end of!!
A draw would have been a fair result on reflection but if you cant defend, and that includes kuipers, then you cant win!! Elphick was easily held off by Doherty but he didnt get any help from his keeper either.
Pick of the players for me today were, Crofts and Murray. Im not sure what Lua Lua brings but im not altogether convinced he will be what he is being touted to be.
 




seagullwedgee

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2005
3,151
I think you must have either been at a different game, or not watched much footy. Navarro was the best midfielder on the park today.
 


bhamanandboy

New member
Feb 17, 2008
158
I was definitely at the right game. Navarro was never at it. Looked slow, cumbersome totally out of his depth!
I fear it you who is dillusional
 


Prodigal Son

Getting older by the day
Sep 21, 2009
726
Sussex
Seen Brighton a few times this season but this was my first outing this year. From what I saw today, some things under poyet have changed for the better but some have remained the same. Thought it was a good game! Norwich were the better side overall, their passing game and movement was good and to be honest they should have been 2-0 up in 20 mins. They didn't take their chances and Brighton capitalized against the run of play. One thing that struck me vividly was the disappearing act from Alan Navarro. Crofts works tirelessly but Navarro is non existent. Exactly how he gets a game in front of Dicker is astonishing. The Defensive frailties were still plainly evident and it all seems too easy at times for teams to break us down. Until thats resolved it going to be difficult to win matches.
Holroyd looked out of his depth against 2 very big and strong centre halves and I think the missing Forster is a real thorn in Brightons side. He should be playing, end of!!
A draw would have been a fair result on reflection but if you cant defend, and that includes kuipers, then you cant win!! Elphick was easily held off by Doherty but he didnt get any help from his keeper either.
Pick of the players for me today were, Crofts and Murray. Im not sure what Lua Lua brings but im not altogether convinced he will be what he is being touted to be.

Mate, see a few more games before you offer such drivel.

Norwich were only the better side in the last 10 minutes of the match, thanks to Poyet's inept substitutions and changing the shape of the team to 4-5-1.

Navarro made a couple of duff passes but was sound overall.

Holroyd had a good game and was causing the Norwich defense problems all the time, making them work hard to keep us out.

Murray missed another sitter and appeared to run out of energy and enthusiasm. He should have been replaced, not Holroyd IMO.

Agree with you about Elphick and Kuipers though! :thumbsup:
 


fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,167
Brighton
Mate, see a few more games before you offer such drivel.

Norwich were only the better side in the last 10 minutes of the match, thanks to Poyet's inept substitutions and changing the shape of the team to 4-5-1.

Navarro made a couple of duff passes but was sound overall.

Holroyd had a good game and was causing the Norwich defense problems all the time, making them work hard to keep us out.

Murray missed another sitter and appeared to run out of energy and enthusiasm. He should have been replaced, not Holroyd IMO.

Agree with you about Elphick and Kuipers though! :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: Spot on
 




Theatre of Trees

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Jul 5, 2003
7,861
TQ2905
Norwich were only the better side in the last 10 minutes of the match, thanks to Poyet's inept substitutions and changing the shape of the team to 4-5-1.

Disagree, after our good start Norwich dominated until we scored. They also had the upper hand in the first twenty minutes after half time. Their persistence in passing and moving their way out of defence had us doing a lot of chasing, particularly Murray who was often chasing back to help out defensively leaving Holroyd isolated up front. The tactical change to me looked more 4-2-3-1 to try and counter this allowing Carole and Bennett to cover the flanks but push forward when we had the ball. It was only when they sent on an extra attacker in place of a defender that they scored.

Murray missed another sitter and appeared to run out of energy and enthusiasm. He should have been replaced, not Holroyd IMO.

See above, Murray covered a lot of ground today particularly chasing back to help our defence something Holroyd is a bit too lightweight and inexperienced for at the moment.
 


Forster's Armband

Well-known member
Sep 23, 2008
2,626
London
Disagree, after our good start Norwich dominated until we scored. They also had the upper hand in the first twenty minutes after half time. Their persistence in passing and moving their way out of defence had us doing a lot of chasing, particularly Murray who was often chasing back to help out defensively leaving Holroyd isolated up front. The tactical change to me looked more 4-2-3-1 to try and counter this allowing Carole and Bennett to cover the flanks but push forward when we had the ball. It was only when they sent on an extra attacker in place of a defender that they scored.



See above, Murray covered a lot of ground today particularly chasing back to help our defence something Holroyd is a bit too lightweight and inexperienced for at the moment.


Spot on. Unfortunately Carole's inept performance was the main problem and left Calderon exposed.
 


Prodigal Son

Getting older by the day
Sep 21, 2009
726
Sussex
The tactical change to me looked more 4-2-3-1 to try and counter this allowing Carole and Bennett to cover the flanks but push forward when we had the ball.

See above, Murray covered a lot of ground today particularly chasing back to help our defence something Holroyd is a bit too lightweight and inexperienced for at the moment.

Clearly this "tactical change" didn't work did it? More of a tactical fvck up IMO :wrong:

Murray may have covered a lot of ground but the fact remains that he failed to secure the second goal from a relatively easy chance (again). Seems to be a bit of a recurring theme or are you going to disagree with this too?

It is early days for Holroyd but the signs are promising. Labelling him lightweight is un-necessary. Inexperienced maybe, but with games like today, he'll get there.
 




shwoody1

Member
May 18, 2009
447
lewes
poyet suggested after that it was time to change things again. could this mean a big target man? we play decent football at times but all to often the ball is coming straight back at us. i liked the look of lua lua went out of the game abit but was taking two of theirs out at the same time, maybe he should of stayed on. but neither murray or holdryd can hold the ball up against two big centre halves, something we could look at. all in all its bad luck or maybe bad defending again. navarro and crofts were again good and dicker was excellent when he came on, some lovely play with bennett down the left on more than one occasion. is there any way we can play the three of them in a differnt system, maybe 4-5-1?
 


seagullwedgee

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2005
3,151
feel better now bhamanandboy?

You need to think about why you are watching this game called footy, and whether you can follow it.

You strike me as the sort of bloke who could watch a disney movie and not get the plot!
 


Theatre of Trees

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
7,861
TQ2905
Clearly this "tactical change" didn't work did it? More of a tactical fvck up IMO

We changed in the 60th minute and it made a difference until they changed when they went 3-4-3 in 75th, the extra attacker then exposed us defensively.

Murray may have covered a lot of ground but the fact remains that he failed to secure the second goal from a relatively easy chance (again). Seems to be a bit of a recurring theme or are you going to disagree with this too?

I'll need to see it again but initial thoughts were the defender did well to block and Murray did the correct thing to place and aim low rather than just blast it which I've seen sail over the bar in similar situations. His header in the second half was good and well placed bu again well defended on the line.

It is early days for Holroyd but the signs are promising. Labelling him lightweight is un-necessary. Inexperienced maybe, but with games like today, he'll get there.

I meant lightweight defensively which I didn't make clear otherwise agree with what you said.
 


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