Is this Australian KFC cricket advert racist?

[User removed 4]

I believe this is the point you were arguing:

"The truth is, what Aussies regard as good, clean humour most other westerners around the world regard as racism. It's cos they're just a wee bit behind the times, as it were."

Yet most racist jokes I hear from Aussies are about "abbos", and relations with Australian aborigines have always been problematic so I don't really see that the Australians are particularly enlightened. Their attitude towards illegal immigration is perhaps easier to argue for, however.

No , the point i was arguing is that we have absolutely no right to look down on aussies , and be all self satisfied and smug about how enlightened and liberal we are when much of our country is a crime ridden shithole, when vast swathes of our inner cities are virtual no go areas where english is a foreign language, and our customs and values are despised, where we have absolutely no f***ing idea whatsoever how many illegal immigrants have come through our borders , the list is endless, i know a lot of aussies and they cannot believe the shit we put up with here , and people on NSC have the brass neck to be condescending about australian humour ffs.

 

[MikeySmall]

This advert is fine - some idiots in the US have gone seriously overboard.

The problem is the aussies are rasict. Ive lived here on and off for 5 years and all aussies ive met (including relations) hate the asians, blacks and especially the Arabs. The Lebanese are a different case. Anyone who argues with this knows very little about aussie culture. The nation is trying to find itself and finding it stupidly hard. They hate the english, indians. irish, asians, africans etc. Its a beautiful place mind!!!

 

[thejackal]

I don't think I was trying to 'look down' on any nation or race. Having spent much time in the UK, various parts of the USA, South Africa and Australia my experience is that the Aussies are by far the most racist of the lot. Closely followed by the Southern Yanks. Just my experience.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Hardly. I have only spent 6 weeks in Australia, but casual racism was much more evident than in Britain. The Aborigines were a marginal society, frowned upon (generally), and there seemed to be little evidence of friendly integration.

The worst KFC advert is the current British one. Has anyone actually ever seen a smiling Brit cooking in a KFC kitchen? Talk about misleading.

 

[cunning fergus]

I don't think I was trying to 'look down' on any nation or race. Having spent much time in the UK, various parts of the USA, South Africa and Australia my experience is that the Aussies are by far the most racist of the lot. Closely followed by the Southern Yanks. Just my experience.

I am not looking down on any nation or race, however as a part time demographic analyst, I note that:

20% of the prison population are from recognised ethnic minorities.
Of this 20% in racial terms 78% are black.
14% of the prison population were not born in the UK.
The prison population grew by just over 12 per cent between 1999 and 2002, the number of black prisoners increased by 51 per cent.

Having spent much time analysing data from the Home Office and the Prison Reform Trust my experience is that Blacks and foreigners commit a level of crime outside their relative demographic in the UK. Just my experience you understand.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I don't think that ad is racist myself.

Anyway, the Americans are one to talk - couldn't their national anthem be deemed a bit racist as it is a celebration of defeating the British, so is being anti-British ok or racist? -- & Does it bother us either way? - Not really

 

[SUIYHP]

actually the American national anthem was written by an Englishman, well the tune was anyway.

 

[Helter]

Didn't realise you could get a bucket of KFC inside the west indies cricket ground. Hate KFC but wouldn't mind eating the windie girls thou

 

[NMH]

Well it is a bit different. It's based on skin colour. And the fact that young kids are telling these jokes without batting an eyelid shows that it won't be fixed for at least another generation. Maybe when Oz evolution reaches the Nineteen Eighties things might start to improve a wee bit eh?

BUT...... black comedians make racist jokes, on videos that they sell as their best work, and to suggest that blacks consume a lot of fried chicken would be absolutely true!

Yes, of course there is a terrible section of p/c mentalists who will jump all over this stuff acting as 'shocked' as they possibly can just so they can revel in some tasty furor like a poisonous bunch of gossip mongers. The Aussies now ought to bring out a commercial that rips those p/c types to shreds, then they'll score even bigger.

Lampooning racial stereotypes has been celebrated in films like Blazing Saddles and The Jerk - but of course there it's under the heading "this is humour" so it's all okay.

 

[NMH]

I don't think that ad is racist myself.

Anyway, the Americans are one to talk - couldn't their national anthem be deemed a bit racist as it is a celebration of defeating the British, so is being anti-British ok or racist? -- & Does it bother us either way? - Not really

I occasionally heard the old "we kicked you Brits out" mantra, especially around July 4th. I get to remind them who was doing the out-kicking were ex-pat settlers and their sympathizers - and that the main reason that English is the language is because the original 'Americans' were British (and Irish).
There's this odd thing said (well I find it odd) that the language was put to a vote and German was almost chosen! That, I find very hard to believe - and that it would even get voted on at all. Does anyone believe there was a lot of German spoken by the early immigrant settlers? Like cowboys might be chewing cheroots on their horses and missing das sauerkraut, bratwurst und schnitzel followed by some apfelstrudel?
Bullen-scheisse! Das ist ein grosse nicht-nicht

 

[looney]

There where a lot of german settlers, the amish as well as plenty in Massachussets and was probably the third most common langauge(anything but french ,ignoring the multiple red skin langauges). but like a lot of old tales its probably morphed a lot over the years.

 

[cunning fergus]

Whenever in the company of our cousins across the I always refer to American Civil War as the 2nd British Civil War, they dont like that, or the fact that during said war the British proclaimed freedom for the slaves.

This act led to many slaves fighting for the British and defeat to the revolutionaries lead to the first genuine 'wave' of black immigration to the UK, although most took their chances with the RN with a view to going back to Africa and 'Freetown' in modern day Liberia.

This fact should stuffed down the throat of the Yanks like Buster Douglas's 13and a 1/2inch cock as you can legitimately pontificate on that old racist Washington and the faux Bill of Rights. In fact it was nearly a 100 years later when Lincoln finally took up the very same British policy and freed the slaves during their first proper civil war.

Who said the Empire was bad?

 

[thejackal]

I am not looking down on any nation or race, however as a part time demographic analyst, I note that:

20% of the prison population are from recognised ethnic minorities.
Of this 20% in racial terms 78% are black.
14% of the prison population were not born in the UK.
The prison population grew by just over 12 per cent between 1999 and 2002, the number of black prisoners increased by 51 per cent.

Having spent much time analysing data from the Home Office and the Prison Reform Trust my experience is that Blacks and foreigners commit a level of crime outside their relative demographic in the UK. Just my experience you understand.

All of the evidence clearly demonstrates that prisons the world over aren't full of blacks or pakis or chinks or whatever, but of the poor and of the marginalised.

Fuckin part-timers.

 

[cunning fergus]

All of the evidence clearly demonstrates that prisons the world over aren't full of blacks or pakis or chinks or whatever, but of the poor and of the marginalised.

Fuckin part-timers.

Gee, so rapists rape as a consequence of poverty? Murderers kill because they are socially disenfranchised.

So really crime is just a weird kind of blackmail, we could resolve it quite simply by giving poor people money and shit to help raise their self esteem?

Are you an advisor to the current Government?

 

[thejackal]

Gee, so rapists rape as a consequence of poverty? Murderers kill because they are socially disenfranchised.

So really crime is just a weird kind of blackmail, we could resolve it quite simply by giving poor people money and shit to help raise their self esteem?

Are you an advisor to the current Government?

That's not what I said. Most of the criminals in prison are not in there for rape or murder, so enough of the Daily Nail headline bollox.

No, crime is just a natural result of inequality in society. It's a simple fact that it's the poor and the 'worthless' that commit most of the crime in any society. Simply focussing on the race of the criminals and not their circumstance is a very shortsighted and - dare I say it - racist way of looking at the problem. That's all.

I don't work for the govt or even agree with what they've done. I'm a humanist. I've seen quite a bit of the world and what I have come to learn is that people are people. They have the same problems and the same reactions. What links the criminals of the world is not the colour of their skin but where they, or more importantly their group, be it an ethnic group or political group or social group, fits into a society and how that society treats them.

I'm not suggesting you could ever get rid of crime by raising people's self esteem. I'm not suggesting you could get rid of crime at all.

Go see the world and work it out for yourself.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Well it is a bit different. It's based on skin colour. And the fact that young kids are telling these jokes without batting an eyelid shows that it won't be fixed for at least another generation. Maybe when Oz evolution reaches the Nineteen Eighties things might start to improve a wee bit eh?

I think you're in then 80's old chap.

I haven't heard an aboriginal joke since then.

There were only ever 5-6 core aboriginal jokes that went around then but they have long been on the joke scrap heap.


I'd actually suggest that our major football body the AFL does more each year to promote the aboriginals contribution to football than any English football league does for its non-white footballers.

That's not trying to slight the EPL or Football League, it's more to point out the AFL is extrmely pro-active in promotong aboriginal footballers.

They do the same in promoting women's contributions to the game as well.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Sorry bushy, but you want to visit Alice Springs. Police everywhere at 9am, the people sharply divided between the aborigines and whites, and they simply do not mix.
Nothing strong about national identity or so cohesion there. Nothing at all.

That's a rather disjointed view.

You'll find plenty of black/white friendships in the Alice.

What the general working community don't like is the alcoholics/petrol sniffers/ trouble makers who sit around the Alice all day doing sweet f*** all with their lives.

It's no different to how your average hard working Brit would view some lazy doped up chav who bludges off the government or contributes nothing to society.

Don't be fooled into thinking all aboriginals share a victim mentality.

There's alot of hard working aboriginal families who feel no connection to those aboriginals who sit around getting psised all day and making the town look like a hovel.

 

[Billy Mays]

I don't think I was trying to 'look down' on any nation or race. Having spent much time in the UK, various parts of the USA, South Africa and Australia my experience is that the Aussies are by far the most racist of the lot. Closely followed by the Southern Yanks. Just my experience.

Leaving aside that "Southern Yanks" is a contradiction what experiences of racism did you experience in the Southern USA? Not meaning to doubt you and I'm sure it's pretty endemic in places but I live in Northern Florida and honestly find the Northern transplants to be more racist than the locals. With that said Florida is pretty untypical of the South in many ways.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

The problem is the aussies are rasict. Ive lived here on and off for 5 years and all aussies ive met (including relations) hate the asians, blacks and especially the Arabs. The Lebanese are a different case. Anyone who argues with this knows very little about aussie culture. The nation is trying to find itself and finding it stupidly hard. They hate the english, indians. irish, asians, africans etc. Its a beautiful place mind!!!

What a load of crap. Yes Australia has some racist people, but they don't as a nation hate all those nationalities! In fact, any racism that there is is mainly towards the Lebanese & Aborignals (and like it or not, the aboriginals do have a high percentage of alcoholics - mainly a genetic issue).

Saying the Ozzies hate the Asians, Irish & English is frankly laughable. I've never heard anything bad said about Africans & certainly not Asians who are well thought of as hard working people - I'm married to an Asian & neither of us have ever faced racism in Australia.

Maybe the people you know are just shit people

 

[User removed 4]

Leaving aside that "Southern Yanks" is a contradiction what experiences of racism did you experience in the Southern USA? Not meaning to doubt you and I'm sure it's pretty endemic in places but I live in Northern Florida and honestly find the Northern transplants to be more racist than the locals. With that said Florida is pretty untypical of the South in many ways.

There is an old saying in the US that northern liberals dont mind how uppity the blacks get , as long as they dont get close, the southerners dont mind how close the blacks get , as long as they dont get uppity.