Video refs

[Acker79]

Referees could make the right call on every decision, but people will still dispute it. No one likes admitting they were not the better team, and if they can blame the ref they will.

How many times do we see players ranting and raving about how a ref got it wrong when replays show how right he got it, and not even on a personal interpretation thing, but a decision that all the pundits in the studio would have made?

It isn't refereeing that needs to improve, it's player/manager/fan attitudes. The respect campaign was nonsense, players don't need to be taught to respect the ref, they need to be taught to accept his decision, whether they agree or respect it or not.

 

[Slough Seagull]

Referees could make the right call on every decision, but people will still dispute it. No one likes admitting they were not the better team, and if they can blame the ref they will.

How many times do we see players ranting and raving about how a ref got it wrong when replays show how right he got it, and not even on a personal interpretation thing, but a decision that all the pundits in the studio would have made?

It isn't refereeing that needs to improve, it's player/manager/fan attitudes. The respect campaign was nonsense, players don't need to be taught to respect the ref, they need to be taught to accept his decision, whether they agree or respect it or not.

Players and 'pundits' actually learning/knowing the rules would be a start...

 

[supaseagull]

I think video replays SHOULD be introduced but only in certain situations and I think in a couple of circumstances it would help deter cheats.

For example, if a player went down in the box and the ref wasn't sure whether it was a pen or not, thenby using video evidence, they could either give the spot kick, a free kick to the defending team or a drop ball on the edge of the penalty area.

I don't think that video technology would work for offsides. However, as with goal line technology, sensor technology is easy and cheap enough to implement.

I've seen too many goals not given that have cost teams for it not to be introduced.

 

[NS Herald]

I can't believe there is so much anti feeling to the use of modern day technology to improve the sport.

The overwhelming feedback in rugby, cricket & tennis has been positive despite all the reservations those sports had to start with.

Football still has so much to learn not least the attitude towards the officials. With so much cheating going on all over the pitch and players and managers making life as difficult as they can for officials, something which benefits the game get's my vote.

There will of course have to be careful restrictions on how and when it would be used but are we going to stay in the dark ages for ever? Imagine the call's on here for video technology when we get to a play off final and lose to a goal that wasn't over the line and we are denied a perfectly good goal that is over the line?

 

[drew]

I think video replays SHOULD be introduced but only in certain situations and I think in a couple of circumstances it would help deter cheats.

For example, if a player went down in the box and the ref wasn't sure whether it was a pen or not, thenby using video evidence, they could either give the spot kick, a free kick to the defending team or a drop ball on the edge of the penalty area.

I don't think that video technology would work for offsides. However, as with goal line technology, sensor technology is easy and cheap enough to implement.

I've seen too many goals not given that have cost teams for it not to be introduced.

You couldn't just do it for suspicious pens, it would have to include all free kicks and that will interrupt the flow of any game and you will still have disputes as to whether someone was fouled or if they dived. Bear in mind you would have to have a number of cameras covering all angles. The best alternative is to for the refs to get on with making those decision but that it can be reviewed by a panel who can then sanction a lengthy ban. If divers keep getting 10 match bans then they will soon stop because they won't be playing and their employers will be still be paying their wages. You could do the same for shirt pullers.

Agree with the goal line stuff though, can't be difficult to implement.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I think video replays SHOULD be introduced but only in certain situations and I think in a couple of circumstances it would help deter cheats.

For example, if a player went down in the box and the ref wasn't sure whether it was a pen or not, thenby using video evidence, they could either give the spot kick, a free kick to the defending team or a drop ball on the edge of the penalty area.

I don't think that video technology would work for offsides. However, as with goal line technology, sensor technology is easy and cheap enough to implement.

I've seen too many goals not given that have cost teams for it not to be introduced.

The problem is, a video ref might have a better view than the ref on the field, but with the majority of penalty decisions, it is still a contentious issue, and 2 people seeing the same thing may well decide differently.

In the NFL they have what are known as "non-reviewable plays", which are based on judgement calls. I.e. "was their sufficient contact to put the player off making the catch?" or "would the player have come down in bounds had he not been pushed in the air?". Regardless of being replay or real-time, these are still a matter of opinion.

The only thing reviewable in the NFL is stuff like "did the knee touch the ground before he let go of the ball" or "did his foot touch the white line"? Apart from the ball crossing the line (and even that is very difficult to get an angle that provides irrefutable evidence) and offside, I can't really think where it could be applicable in football.

 

[Husty]

The limited use of video replay in tennis (3 challenges allowed per player per set) makes me wonder why we don't have video replay on a limited basis in football. eg each team can make three challenges during a match - but only in reaction to a stoppage in play.

What happened when the FA referees presented the case to FIFA a few years ago?

Thing is though with tennis there are naturally large breaks between points, if we have to take a 30second break mid game to make a challenge it could really upset the flow of the game, plus who pays for it, and ho do we know all grounds can handle it e.t.c

 

[BeardyChops]

Thing is though with tennis there are naturally large breaks between points, if we have to take a 30second break mid game to make a challenge it could really upset the flow of the game, plus who pays for it, and ho do we know all grounds can handle it e.t.c

I'm changing my mind about this again...

If it was limited - so a team's captain had to make the challenge, and they knew they only had a few challenges per match, it would hardly stop the match as much we already have - already the ref goes to the linesman for advice, they are delays while he waves away complaining players etc.

If players accepted decisions and commentators (eg Andy Gray) stopped commenting on referees 'making shocking decisions', and 'having generally a good match', then we'd not need any extra technology. As it is, it seems the players need something to keep them quiet and as been said a few times, goal line technology is almost a nobrainer.

Good points about the money of course - but start at top level and work down.

 

[Slough Seagull]

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