Cannabis Cafe Worthing

[BensGrandad]

Do not think so

 

[Yorkie]

Do not think so

I'm with Edna. There are drugs cases (including suppliers) going through the courts every day.

 

[beorhthelm]

not true when it comes to super skunk, heavy use not required !

here we go with the Daily Mail "super skunk", it was around 15 years ago (that i know of) so its not new either. harder cannabis just makes you more giggly, more lethargic and gives you more munchies.

 

[Jam The Man]

Maybe because all you know is local gossip, as opposed to credible intelligence?

Is the right answer...

 

[nwgull]

I don't see why adults shouldn't have the option to do whatever they want with their own bodies. Why is Cannabis illegal on the basis that it causes effects with long term heavy use? It does nobody else any harm. Eating at McDonald's every day would have serious health effects, so why don't we make that illegal as well?

 

[challengechappers]

here we go with the Daily Mail "super skunk", it was around 15 years ago (that i know of) so its not new either. harder cannabis just makes you more giggly, more lethargic and gives you more munchies.

your opinions for and against are much more likely to be based on what you've read in the papers plus the fact that "i smoke(d) it and i'm alright".

i prefer to base mine on 10 years working in various mental health services.

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

Where is this gaff anyway, heard so much about it but never been able to find it?


(Purely so I know how to avoid it and warn others of its existance you understand, Edna).

 

[Silent Bob]

your opinions for and against are much more likely to be based on what you've read in the papers plus the fact that "i smoke(d) it and i'm alright".

i prefer to base mine on 10 years working in various mental health services.

Doing what exactly?

 

[Nibble]

The police in Sussex are not interested in drugs or dealers as the biggest dealer in Worthing is known to everybody but still the police dont do anything about him. I wonder why?

I think that is wrong. I used to work very closely with the police and a big part of my job was passing intel on dealers and users onto them. There are many reasons why Police don't just swoop down on dealers. If you take one dealer away another one wil fill his place, literally within the hour. Then the police have to start all over again gathering ontel on unknowns.

They need to follow the chain and get a good solid idea of where supply and money is coming from. It is a lot more complicated than just acting on rumours from the public. The evidence has to be 100% or it gets thrown out.

 

[beorhthelm]

your opinions for and against are much more likely to be based on what you've read in the papers plus the fact that "i smoke(d) it and i'm alright".

i prefer to base mine on 10 years working in various mental health services.

i total accept that for a few there is a problem. the trouble is, working in mental health you and other health professionals are obviously going to have a biased view as you only see those adversely effected. likewise, i dont see the problems, so can happily pretend they are few and far between.

i do not base opinions on newspapers, but on the adacdotal evidence of my first hand experience, more than simply "i smoked, im ok" I cannot think of anyone i was at college or univeristy with who didnt not partake of some form of illegal drug, and 90% of them would have smoked cannabis ( a few would neck pills but wouldnt smoke because thats bad for you ). i know one person who had some mental health issues a few year ago, and who is to say they would have had no issues if they had never had smoked cannabis (and they weren't a particular "user"? I also know a couple of people who have significant drink related problems, so where does the correlation lie? If someone is smoking several joints a day, that is probably going to cause trouble, but then thats the same as if it were several pints every day or prescription drugs.

what is needed is proper evidence based and neutral research, or even simple anaylsis of the statistics that looks at and compares the wider population. until that is done its just going to be a us and them debate that goes nowhere.

 

[BensGrandad]

I think that is wrong. I used to work very closely with the police and a big part of my job was passing intel on dealers and users onto them. There are many reasons why Police don't just swoop down on dealers. If you take one dealer away another one wil fill his place, literally within the hour. Then the police have to start all over again gathering ontel on unknowns.

They need to follow the chain and get a good solid idea of where supply and money is coming from. It is a lot more complicated than just acting on rumours from the public. The evidence has to be 100% or it gets thrown out.

I can fully understand your views but to the average man in the streets they do not see it that way. It is a case of 'he is distributing drugs to his band of sellers who then sell it on to users', why do the police not knick him.

 

[Nibble]

I can fully understand your views but to the average man in the streets they do not see it that way. It is a case of 'he is distributing drugs to his band of sellers who then sell it on to users', why do the police not knick him.

I can't pretend to know exactly how the police operate but I cannot seea reason that they would just ignore them.There has to be a reason and I would hazard a guess that it is gathering the evidence. The police don't decide who gets prosecuted, they investigate and arrest. It is up to the court to decide if the case is strong enough and I imagine the emount of time police would spend gathering intel would not want it blown by being hasty and having it chucked out of court.

 

[NMH]

here we go with the Daily Mail "super skunk", it was around 15 years ago (that i know of) so its not new either. harder cannabis just makes you more giggly, more lethargic and gives you more munchies.

And the rest.
It makes you start thinking things that are not sustainable or enabling in reality.
It drowns your mind and your outlook, with insular views that will eventually alienate you from almost everyone except those who share your weed (and thereby your outlook). It effectively and actually narrows the mind.
It will make your very nature change, so that your movements will become somewhat strange, your eyes will display your odd attitudes, along with your twitchy head movements.
Your opinion of societal values will change, and your aspect will not be to fit in with a society that you will see as, now, somewhat sinister.
You personal hygeine will not be as important, as with your general appearance.
Thus, you will display a less-than-healthy image, hardly that of someone who exercises, or does any team sports (teams don't 'work' for stoners). Your teeth won't matter, not much to do with societal 'order' will matter!
You will believe people mean something deeper than what they are actually saying, you will read between the lines of the simplest things.
You mental focus will lack peripheral factors, and your general outlook will become confined....although YOU will think yourself so open minded, 'free', and reasonable.
Lethargy, the word beorthelm mentioned above, will envelop your days. You will likely become unemployable.

For an example of this sort of thing, and in case anyone wants to illustrate such things to their kids - look at successful people; does anyone think they smoke weed? Was Churchill making strategies while rolling a fat one? Are any rastfarians making scientific breakthroughs?
That guy with the unwashed look and the unkempt beard, staring wide eyes and no shoes - was it the tea and coffee? Is he a marketing director of a large company? Is he possibly a good football player, would you pick him first for your team?

Sorry, but weed doesn't 'just' give you the munchies. It's a mild drug though, compared to the mega-bombs you can blow your mind with instead.
The Beatles' drug period may have sounded interesting and imaginative, with Mr Mustards, and Egg-men and "nothing is real" - but is it co-incidence that they couldn't work together quite soon afterwards?

Okay, so the socially allowed drug alcohol isn't much to rave about, it's a depressant and 'flammable' to the psyche in too many cases. People disregard their own held moral standards when intoxicated - including their capacity to say "no more drink, thanks"

There are no 'justs' about what drugs do to young people, and they cannot study the effects by taking drugs themselves. Harvard Professor Timothy Leary is proof of that.

 

[Nibble]

And the rest.
It makes you start thinking things that are not sustainable or enabling in reality.
It drowns your mind and your outlook, with insular views that will eventually alienate you from almost everyone except those who share your weed (and thereby your outlook). It effectively and actually narrows the mind.
It will make your very nature change, so that your movements will become somewhat strange, your eyes will display your odd attitudes, along with your twitchy head movements.
Your opinion of societal values will change, and your aspect will not be to fit in with a society that you will see as, now, somewhat sinister.
You personal hygeine will not be as important, as with your general appearance.
Thus, you will display a less-than-healthy image, hardly that of someone who exercises, or does any team sports (teams don't 'work' for stoners). Your teeth won't matter, not much to do with societal 'order' will matter!
You will believe people mean something deeper than what they are actually saying, you will read between the lines of the simplest things.
You mental focus will lack peripheral factors, and your general outlook will become confined....although YOU will think yourself so open minded, 'free', and reasonable.
Lethargy, the word beorthelm mentioned above, will envelop your days. You will likely become unemployable.

For an example of this sort of thing, and in case anyone wants to illustrate such things to their kids - look at successful people; does anyone think they smoke weed? Was Churchill making strategies while rolling a fat one? Are any rastfarians making scientific breakthroughs?
That guy with the unwashed look and the unkempt beard, staring wide eyes and no shoes - was it the tea and coffee? Is he a marketing director of a large company? Is he possibly a good football player, would you pick him first for your team?

Sorry, but weed doesn't 'just' give you the munchies. It's a mild drug though, compared to the mega-bombs you can blow your mind with instead.
The Beatles' drug period may have sounded interesting and imaginative, with Mr Mustards, and Egg-men and "nothing is real" - but is it co-incidence that they couldn't work together quite soon afterwards?

Okay, so the socially allowed drug alcohol isn't much to rave about, it's a depressant and 'flammable' to the psyche in too many cases. People disregard their own held moral standards when intoxicated - including their capacity to say "no more drink, thanks"

There are no 'justs' about what drugs do to young people, and they cannot study the effects by taking drugs themselves. Harvard Professor Timothy Leary is proof of that.

Post of the week. IMO

 

[Man of Harveys]

Does it sell Clarkey Cat?

 

[NMH]

I can fully understand your views but to the average man in the streets they do not see it that way. It is a case of 'he is distributing drugs to his band of sellers who then sell it on to users', why do the police not knick him.

I would imagine that the police and law-enforcement have thought this through.
You eliminate one dealer, you still have all his customers out there actively seeking a new source. The activity may even spread, through these users, all trying to network furiously and find the source. Prices go up in response to demand, and the guys they really want to track down make more money and gain power to protect themselves.
Thus they still have a very adequate supply at the top, and the whole industry becomes even more lucrative for those who want to exploit it.

 

[beorhthelm]

many fair and valid points NMH. i take the view from casual, occasional use rather than habitual, regular use which is probably too naive. It would be nice to not have to legislate for the dumb arses in the world. I suppose my point is the drug isnt inherently bad, its the users that make it so.

 

[perseus]

I am just having a little weed smoke and a JCB comes through the wall.

Why am I paranoid?

Cause of the weed. I don't think so!?

SHITHEAD REVISITED

 

[perseus]

BEEN ON THE BEER AGAIN YOU HOPHEAD.

WHAT A LOAD OR MORALISTIC PREJUDICED SHIT!

ASSASSIN WEED .

And the rest.
It makes you start thinking things that are not sustainable or enabling in reality.
It drowns your mind and your outlook, with insular views that will eventually alienate you from almost everyone except those who share your weed (and thereby your outlook). It effectively and actually narrows the mind.
It will make your very nature change, so that your movements will become somewhat strange, your eyes will display your odd attitudes, along with your twitchy head movements.
Your opinion of societal values will change, and your aspect will not be to fit in with a society that you will see as, now, somewhat sinister.
You personal hygeine will not be as important, as with your general appearance.
Thus, you will display a less-than-healthy image, hardly that of someone who exercises, or does any team sports (teams don't 'work' for stoners). Your teeth won't matter, not much to do with societal 'order' will matter!
You will believe people mean something deeper than what they are actually saying, you will read between the lines of the simplest things.
You mental focus will lack peripheral factors, and your general outlook will become confined....although YOU will think yourself so open minded, 'free', and reasonable.
Lethargy, the word beorthelm mentioned above, will envelop your days. You will likely become unemployable.

For an example of this sort of thing, and in case anyone wants to illustrate such things to their kids - look at successful people; does anyone think they smoke weed? Was Churchill making strategies while rolling a fat one? Are any rastfarians making scientific breakthroughs?
That guy with the unwashed look and the unkempt beard, staring wide eyes and no shoes - was it the tea and coffee? Is he a marketing director of a large company? Is he possibly a good football player, would you pick him first for your team?

Sorry, but weed doesn't 'just' give you the munchies. It's a mild drug though, compared to the mega-bombs you can blow your mind with instead.
The Beatles' drug period may have sounded interesting and imaginative, with Mr Mustards, and Egg-men and "nothing is real" - but is it co-incidence that they couldn't work together quite soon afterwards?

Okay, so the socially allowed drug alcohol isn't much to rave about, it's a depressant and 'flammable' to the psyche in too many cases. People disregard their own held moral standards when intoxicated - including their capacity to say "no more drink, thanks"

There are no 'justs' about what drugs do to young people, and they cannot study the effects by taking drugs themselves. Harvard Professor Timothy Leary is proof of that.

 

[perseus]

I think that is wrong. I used to work very closely with the police and a big part of my job was passing intel on dealers and users onto them. There are many reasons why Police don't just swoop down on dealers. If you take one dealer away another one wil fill his place, literally within the hour. Then the police have to start all over again gathering ontel on unknowns.

They need to follow the chain and get a good solid idea of where supply and money is coming from. It is a lot more complicated than just acting on rumours from the public. The evidence has to be 100% or it gets thrown out.

This is part bollocks as well. It works both ways. The grasses do not get there concrete boots cause the dealers like to know who is grassing them up so they can feed them information on their rivals.

I would say, don't get involved. It is not worth it. It is all a load of shit.

Hashish is no worse than beer, except that it is illegal. I know it can be synthesised to oil, but that is no worse than whisky.

Don't matter to me. I think beer distorts the world.