[News] The World at War

[Insel affe]

Meanwhile, the subject that is taboo

Israeli forces kill 51 Palestinians waiting for flour at Gaza aid site, witnesses and rescuers say​

Israeli forces kill 51 Palestinians waiting for flour at Gaza aid site, witnesses and rescuers say

It is potentially the deadliest of the almost daily shootings that have been taking place recently near aid distribution sites.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fkn tw@ts

 

[abc]

Meanwhile, the subject that is taboo

Israeli forces kill 51 Palestinians waiting for flour at Gaza aid site, witnesses and rescuers say​

Israeli forces kill 51 Palestinians waiting for flour at Gaza aid site, witnesses and rescuers say

It is potentially the deadliest of the almost daily shootings that have been taking place recently near aid distribution sites.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fkn tw@ts

I just don’t understand the Israeli thinking behind this and all the similar attacks. Aside from the horror and futility, Israel is making enemies around the world at a time when they need friends.
I think I understand some of the motivation behind the attacks on Iran who have publicly said they want to destroy Israel. But what threat are civilians who are starving and the aid workers trying to help the starving?

 

[Whoislloydy]

Meanwhile, the subject that is taboo

Israeli forces kill 51 Palestinians waiting for flour at Gaza aid site, witnesses and rescuers say​

Israeli forces kill 51 Palestinians waiting for flour at Gaza aid site, witnesses and rescuers say

It is potentially the deadliest of the almost daily shootings that have been taking place recently near aid distribution sites.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fkn tw@ts

Just days after Israel condemned Iran bombing civilians, pot kettle f***ing black.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I just don’t understand the Israeli thinking behind this and all the similar attacks. Aside from the horror and futility, Israel is making enemies around the world at a time when they need friends.
I think I understand some of the motivation behind the attacks on Iran who have publicly said they want to destroy Israel. But what threat are civilians who are starving and the aid workers trying to help the starving?

My take.

Netanyahu didn't authorise this and doesn't want this for the flak it will draw .... but when you stoke up and unleash the ultra racist attack dogs of the IDF, then incidents like are inevitable.

Plenty of armies now and across history have successfully recruited on the tacit promise of being able to murder an "inferior race" without facing a penalty.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

World' biggest wanker

We know where Iran's leader is but we won't kill him - for now, says Trump - live updates

Trump says Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei "is an easy target", warns "our patience is wearing thin", and then posts: "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!"

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[abc]

World' biggest wanker

We know where Iran's leader is but we won't kill him - for now, says Trump - live updates

Trump says Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei "is an easy target", warns "our patience is wearing thin", and then posts: "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!"

www.bbc.co.uk

So the use of ‘our’ and ‘we’ shows that this war on Iran is 100% a joint Israeli/US operation.

Shame Trump can’t do the same with Ukraine who were invaded by a foreign aggressor.

 

[abc]

The US/Israeli plan is clearly the annihilation of the existing Iran regime. But Sky’s Mark Stone is spot on:

“From history, though, regime change (even when it comes with a plan - and there is certainly not one here) spells civil war and from that comes a refugee crisis.”

Do we ever learn from history??

 

[Hugo Rune]

DJ Vance is now adding petrol to the flames.

It seems that the US's specialist bunker busting missles that can destroy the uranium enriching centrifuges that could be more than 80m below the ground might well be deployed.

 

[Whoislloydy]

It's all about minerals, Iran is a top 10 mineral rich country in the world.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

So the use of ‘our’ and ‘we’ shows that this war on Iran is 100% a joint Israeli/US operation.

Shame Trump can’t do the same with Ukraine who were invaded by a foreign aggressor.

I'm not sure too much can be inferred from Trump's use of pronouns.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

So I guess that is what he meant by "better than a ceasefire"
code for we will annihilate them and then there is no need for a ceasefire.

If we help them after signing that trade deal, Starmer can go Fk himself and not in my name thank you very much, he will go down in my estimation by a long, long way.

So we should have held out for 100% tariffs?
Perhaps......
But we have only a very tiny fist to wave at Trump, from far, far away.

I would like to think we are looking into divesting from economic engagement with the US, on the quiet.
And seeking stronger links with the EU, economically and militarily*.
Grandstanding is pointless.
And sadly diplomacy doesn't work with the orange man-child.
There is no humanity, collegiality or obligation.
Just deals.
All Trumps interactions are transactional.

We must not forget what we are dealing with.

*Something Labour (and Toreis, once their leader stops party political grandstanding) could use
to create clear pinky-blue water between themselves and Trump's eager fluffer: Farage.

 

[Zeberdi]

DJ Vance is now adding petrol to the flames.

It seems that the US's specialist bunker busting missles that can destroy the uranium enriching centrifuges that could be more than 80m below the ground might well be deployed.

I think that was always on the cards.

These deep bunkers can’t be taken out by Israel, they don’t have the ordinance so if Netzi and Trumpzi want to stop the development of nuclear weapons, they need to get to the enrichment facilities deep underground - all they’ve done so far is bomb surface buildings and scientists (and residential buildings) - a bit of a shltshow really.

They used the same US bunker bombs in Gaza to bomb the tunnels.

 

[sparkie]

I wouldn't be surprised if Old King Krasnov drops a nuke on the Iranian nuclear facility in the mountain.

It gives his puppeteer a whataboutism to use a nuke in Ukraine.

 

[Sea Cider]

Just days after Israel condemned Iran bombing civilians, pot kettle f***ing black.

Incredulous. How they could possibly have the nerve to complain about their civilians being bombed after months of war crimes and killing tens of thousands of Palestinian women and children is beyond me. That government is utter scum.

 

[aolstudios]

Really awful what is happening in Tehran. My thoughts are with the Iranian people, especially the younger people who have not lived through this kind of fear and destruction before, and just want to go about their lives.

I'm not sure 'going about their lives' in the way we understand it has been how the average Iranian has been allowed to live for decades, tbf.
Certainly according to the several Iranians I know. Every one of them would like to see this regime buried forever

 

[Mustafa II]

I'm not sure 'going about their lives' in the way we understand it has been how the average Iranian has been allowed to live for decades, tbf.
Certainly according to the several Iranians I know. Every one of them would like to see this regime buried forever

I'm sure, it is undemocratic and mostly theocratic and young people in particular there want democracy and freedom.

But generally speaking, people there live normal lives. They go to work, party on the weekends, have relationships and generally can do whatever they want, although perhaps with fewer absolute freedoms that so called 'free' countries of the West have.

Iranians are generally modern, educated and progressive peoples. They are also tolerant and good.

The undemocratic regime there will end eventually, it is coming, the young and emerging generations do not want it - but the bombing of innocent Iranian civilians and their homes by an evil, tyrannical, racist and genocidal regime that is Israel is not the right way to achieve it.

 

[aolstudios]

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[Triggaaar]

The US/Israeli plan is clearly the annihilation of the existing Iran regime. But Sky’s Mark Stone is spot on:

“From history, though, regime change (even when it comes with a plan - and there is certainly not one here) spells civil war and from that comes a refugee crisis.”

Do we ever learn from history??

I guess Iran's refugees won't be America's problem, so he can do what he likes and f*** everyone else

 

[borat]

 

[Zeberdi]

Posted the same point up thread yesterday, along with this article - there is no mandate of self-defence for bombing nuclear facilities where bombs might be built and might be used at some undefined point in the future.

Is Israel’s Use of Force Against Iran Justified by Self-Defence?

This morning, Israel launched a major military operation against Iran targeting its nuclear programme, including facilities, individual scientists and military leadership. In this post, I will provide a quick, preliminary analysis of the legality of Israel’s use of force against Iran as a...

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