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[Help] Laptop won't upgrade to Windows 11 - do I need a new one?



1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,684
I have purchased 4 macs since 2020 starting with an IMac, spent €7,500 in total and received around €2,000 back when selling them on. So I would say €5,500 for 25 years of no hassle turn it on and works is pretty good.
I have purchased one old Windows 7 laptop for about £200 about 10 years ago. I've used various releases of Linux Mint on it with no hassle turn it on and works. (y)
 




1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,684
I don't store anything older than 3 months on my laptop. I have four external HDs and back it all up there.
Let the laptop gambol free without having a caravan strapped to its back.
My ongoing digitised music collection is backed up on 3 external HDs and two 512gb sd cards. We can't be too careful with the things that really matter in life 😄

Just waiting for the prices to come down, which they will, for the 1tb cards next.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
26,582
This makes the argument a bit silly. If you buy a cheap Windows laptop, then it won't last as long. If you spend as much as you would on a Macbook, you will get a well-built machine which lasts just as long as a Macbook and will likely be easier to upgrade.

User experience is really down to which a user prefers. I don't love the more recent version of Windows but I still find their user experience better than MacOS with more customisation options.
MacOS is an appalling user experience. For the record I have both a Mac and a Windows PC for work.

Performance wise the Mac has a much better battery life and never overheats. The PC overheats all the time so badly I have to run in on a special heat extracting fan.

Apple were definitely ahead in terms of UI years ago, but have got complacent and to me it feels old.

For home, Ubuntu (Linux) is a dream to use and gets progressively better.

My surface go 1 is a lovely little machine running Ubuntu. It even supports the touch screen. I recently had to buy a new keyboard cos I split water all over it (£35)

So for the money, I've built a lovely and hugely portable machine for £135. At todays prices I could it for much less.

Next time, I'll get a refurbished surface go 2 and do the same. Just waiting for the prices to come down.

The surface is a lovely bit of kit with an operating system that kills them. I've got the bigger one as well (probably 8 years old). I've been using that to remote into my other PCs, but I'm going to dual boot with Ubuntu because I've had such a great experience recently with the latest version.

My current issue, those sneaky guys at MS have been overwriting the dual boot menu, but I'll work that out.
 
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dadams2k11

ID10T Error
Jun 24, 2011
5,172
Brighton
You can still upgrade it to Win 11.
You will need to do a few things, though.

- A USB memory stick with 10GB of space
- You will need to download Windows 11 - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
- Download Rufus USB boot creator - https://rufus.ie/downloads/

You create a bootable Windows 11 image with Rufus, and it basically stops all the compatibility checks and bypasses your CPU issue.

Instructions on creating the boot drive -

You simply plug the USB stick into the laptop once you are in Windows 10, open the USB stick and click on Set up and sit back and wait.
 




Madafwo

I'm probably being facetious.
Nov 11, 2013
1,917
You can still upgrade it to Win 11.
You will need to do a few things, though.

- A USB memory stick with 10GB of space
- You will need to download Windows 11 - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
- Download Rufus USB boot creator - https://rufus.ie/downloads/

You create a bootable Windows 11 image with Rufus, and it basically stops all the compatibility checks and bypasses your CPU issue.

Instructions on creating the boot drive -

You simply plug the USB stick into the laptop once you are in Windows 10, open the USB stick and click on Set up and sit back and wait.


That's what I've done on my old laptop but stopped short of recommending it as it won't install the latest updates, so it's kind of no different to Windows 10 in this case.
 


Coldeanseagull

Opinionated
Mar 13, 2013
8,823
Coldean
Out of curiosity, I checked what my compatibility issue is. Apparently to change it to UEFI(protected boot thing), I need to adjust it from legacy boot but it's not installed on GPT but the usual MBR so I'd have to do a clean install anyway. Linux it is as per my original plan.
 






Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
NSC Patron
May 8, 2007
13,500
Toronto
This thread prompted me to finally make the switch to Linux. I've been wanting to upgrade the SSD in my laptop, so I bought a new one and did a clean install of Linux Mint.

It's been many years since I last used Linux on a PC and they really have made the process so much more user-friendly. I installed all the programs I used regularly in Windows with no issues. It's basically Windows without all the crap you don't want running in the background. I don't think I'll be switching back any time soon.
 


Surrey Phil

Well-known member
Aug 3, 2010
1,582
That's what I've done on my old laptop but stopped short of recommending it as it won't install the latest updates, so it's kind of no different to Windows 10 in this case.
Do you know, with the link you provided (which is brilliant by the way) if it comes with Windows 11 or do you have to buy this separately?
 






Coldeanseagull

Opinionated
Mar 13, 2013
8,823
Coldean
This thread prompted me to finally make the switch to Linux. I've been wanting to upgrade the SSD in my laptop, so I bought a new one and did a clean install of Linux Mint.

It's been many years since I last used Linux on a PC and they really have made the process so much more user-friendly. I installed all the programs I used regularly in Windows with no issues. It's basically Windows without all the crap you don't want running in the background. I don't think I'll be switching back any time soon.
Ive used Mint, but for a linux OS it's quite a memory hungry system....not like windoze, but a bit grabby. Also, being Debian/Ubuntu based it's a bit 'same as'. Nothing wrong with that, but it's like going to a sweet shop and not knowing what to choose
 




Coldeanseagull

Opinionated
Mar 13, 2013
8,823
Coldean
Ive used Mint, but for a linux OS it's quite a memory hungry system....not like windoze, but a bit grabby. Also, being Debian/Ubuntu based it's a bit 'same as'. Nothing wrong with that, but it's like going to a sweet shop and not knowing what to choose
I take that back. Just tried it and it's a lot more user friendly and compatible than a few years ago...Let's see how the idiot technophobe/wife gets on with it
Yes it does. I have my son's old computer just to run RDR2 on the TV and it had this stupid compatibility issue. I used the method described and it updates perfectly.
I'll try this if the idiot wife can't get on with a decent OS
 




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