[News] Winter Fuel Payments Are Back

[beorhthelm]

Can anyone clarify if this only covers actual annual income ignoring any investments?

income usually means anything, from state pension, private pension, interest on savings, dividends, side jobs.

 

[Flounce]

income usually means anything, from state pension, private pension, interest on savings, dividends, side jobs.

Agreed but if you are not drawing from your private pension?

 

[BenGarfield]

Can anyone clarify if this only covers actual annual income ignoring any investments?

It includes all taxable income including taxable income from savings and investments - some income from government bonds and ISAs may not be included - Im not sure of the full detail on these though.

 

[alanfp]

I don't get the heating allowance of course,

You say "of course" but I don't know if you mean because you live abroad??
I understand that some people can receive WFA when living abroad.

Whole thing seemed to take bizarrely long to get to the point they should have started with - keep it for those on low incomes, scrap it for those on higher incomes.

Why was it so difficult?

But that's exactly what they did last year... easily, quickly and suddenly.
The difficulty was that people didn't like the government's definition of "low" and "higher" - that's what has taken the time.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Can anyone clarify if this only covers actual annual income ignoring any investments?

BBC says it'll be applied automatically, which infers it'll be based on whatever appears on your tax records

 

[Flounce]

BBC says it'll be applied automatically, which infers it'll be whatever appears on your tax records

Makes sense!

 

[Is it PotG?]

 

[cjd]

You say "of course" but I don't know if you mean because you live abroad??
I understand that some people can receive WFA when living abroad.

But that's exactly what they did last year... easily, quickly and suddenly.
The difficulty was that people didn't like the government's definition of "low" and "higher" - that's what's going has taken the time.

I believe the reason I don't receive heating allowance is something along the lines of the average annual temperature here is above the necessity of needing help with fuel bills. I'm fine with that and neither do I need it.

With regard to your other point ( not directed at me ), I will leave others to answer, but I do feel the Labour Party,s U turn has absolutely nothing to do with levels , common sense or indeed, most importantly compassion....but simply because they are doing badly in the polls. Very poor Governing in my humble opinion.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'm not telling anyone how to live their lives you ignorant ****...who of course has no family.

I do have a lot of family in the UK. I will be returning there one day..probably quite soon. I do pay the vast majority of my taxes to the UK. It does matter to me how people are treated, whether here or in France...or anywhere else for that matter.

I would rather have an opinion on the way society treats people rather than yours which consists of what expensive restaurant you eat in.....pathetic as always.

Some things about people never change.

Seriously, have a word with yourself.

 

[cjd]

Seriously, have a word with yourself.

Would you mind if i had two words to to you...the second being "off"...?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Whole thing seemed to take bizarrely long to get to the point they should have started with - keep it for those on low incomes, scrap it for those on higher incomes.

Why was it so difficult?

Indeed if they had set the bar like this at the beginning it may have even been applauded instead of covering up a clanger

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Would you mind if i had two words to to you...the second being "off"...?

Go on then, have two words.

 

[LamieRobertson]

income usually means anything, from state pension, private pension, interest on savings, dividends, side jobs.

Taxable income? …assuming things like dividends/interest earnt say from within an ISA isn’t included?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Indeed if they had set the bar like this at the beginning it may have even been applauded instead of covering up a clanger

This. Completely. How on earth could Labour spend so long in opposition then be so politically tone-deaf as to make this one of their first cash-grabs? And then tout vicious benefit cuts as their second? Low-hanging fruit for sure, but at what cost among those who trusted them with their vote to stand on the side of a fairer society?
Party membership

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Where does it state the £35000 is per household ? If that is the case I cannot see how 75% of pensioners will receive it ( although that is only my perception ).

The WFA has always been per household no matter if there is a limit or not.

Before all this hooha, the first pensioner in a household got the WFA eg £200*. When the spouse reached pensionable age, they then received £100 each, and if one died, the remaining spouse, received £200.

*figures used as an example.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

those who had it taken away by that Northern bint

Any argument you may or may not have had has gone out of the window for me when you resort to that.

 

[Mustafa II]

ALL households earning under £35k should be getting the heating allowance, or none at all. It is only fair.

This is ageist bollocks, as if that generation hasn't had it good enough already.

Absolutely guarantee the younger generations of today won't be getting such discounts - in fact, they'll be lucky to even get the state pension.

 

[WATFORD zero]

@cjd ranting about something that has no effect on him again whilst moaning about people from 'the left' taking 'political sides' on NSC ? Chuck in a few expletives and insults and I'm guessing I probably have it all covered. I don't have time to read the whole thread

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I guess you could report anything you regard as hate to a moderator

Like calling somebody a "northern bint", I guess.

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

The WFA has always been per household no matter if there is a limit or not.

Before all this hooha, the first pensioner in a household got the WFA eg £200*. When the spouse reached pensionable age, they then received £100 each, and if one died, the remaining spouse, received £200.

*figures used as an example.

The payment is per household but, as I read it, the qualifying income is per person.