[News] Winter Fuel Payments Are Back

[Official Old Man]

Basics. Every pensioner who earns under £35,000 will get £200 (per household). Over 80's get £300

More than 75% of pensioners to get winter fuel payment as Reeves confirms major U-turn - live updates

Pensioners in England and Wales with an annual income below £35,000 will now be eligible, reversing one of the government's first major policies.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Marshy]

Oh well, should cheer my Mum and Dad up a bit.... well for an hour or so

 

[Mellotron]

Whole thing seemed to take bizarrely long to get to the point they should have started with - keep it for those on low incomes, scrap it for those on higher incomes.

Why was it so difficult?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Initial thoughts.

£35k is a lot, right?

There will be lots of people working, plus paying a mortgage (or saving for one), trying to raise kids who earn less than that. And they will be subsidising the fuel costs of those without any of those expenses.

I didn't think it would be anywhere near that much.

 

[Mellotron]

Initial thoughts.

£35k is a lot, right?

There will be lots of people working, plus paying a mortgage (or saving for one), trying to raise kids who earn less than that. And they will be subsidising the fuel costs of those without any of those expenses.

I didn't think it would be anywhere near that much.

Yeah, but old people moan and vote.

 

[Giraffe]

Whole thing seemed to take bizarrely long to get to the point they should have started with - keep it for those on low incomes, scrap it for those on higher incomes.

Why was it so difficult?

Agreed. But at least they seem to have arrived at a sensible point now - political damage done though.

 

[Springal]

So a couple earning £69,999 per year as a couple, with no mortgage get it ?!

Should be half that

 

[cjd]

Yeah, but old people moan and vote.

Please excuse me but ....do f*** off...!

Older people who are retired are often at home ALL day and not working physical jobs, or in centrally heated offices. They are often nowhere near as mobile as they were and younger people are. Good mobility helps keep you warm.

Just in case you didn;'t read the earlier part of my post..."do f*** off".

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

Initial thoughts.

£35k is a lot, right?

There will be lots of people working, plus paying a mortgage (or saving for one), trying to raise kids who earn less than that. And they will be subsidising the fuel costs of those without any of those expenses.

I didn't think it would be anywhere near that much.

It’s a huge amount, but as someone else said, they vote and moan.

There will be working families and single people who can’t turn their heating on, in much worse financial positions, who have to subsidise this.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Please excuse me but ....do f*** off...!

Older people who are retired are often at home ALL day and not working physical jobs, or in centrally heated offices. They are often nowhere near as mobile as they were and younger people are. Good mobility helps keep you warm.

Just in case you didn;'t read the earlier part of my post..."do f*** off".

He wasn't arguing that older people don't need heating ....

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Please excuse me but ....do f*** off...!

Older people who are retired are often at home ALL day and not working physical jobs, or in centrally heated offices. They are often nowhere near as mobile as they were and younger people are. Good mobility helps keep you warm.

Just in case you didn;'t read the earlier part of my post..."do f*** off".

What are the temperatures like in La Rochelle?

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

Please excuse me but ....do f*** off...!

Older people who are retired are often at home ALL day and not working physical jobs, or in centrally heated offices. They are often nowhere near as mobile as they were and younger people are. Good mobility helps keep you warm.

Just in case you didn;'t read the earlier part of my post..."do f*

But he’s right…

 

[Thunder Bolt]

So a couple earning £69,999 per year as a couple, with no mortgage get it ?!

Should be half that

The payment is per household not per person.

 

[Curryisgreat]

Please excuse me but ....do f*** off...!

Older people who are retired are often at home ALL day and not working physical jobs, or in centrally heated offices. They are often nowhere near as mobile as they were and younger people are. Good mobility helps keep you warm.

Just in case you didn;'t read the earlier part of my post..."do f*** off".

Miserable old twat!

 

[cjd]

What are the temperatures like in La Rochelle?

I'm actually inland from la Rochelle and it is a very comfortable 24 degrees. Thank you for asking..

I don't get the heating allowance of course, but I really do care about so many of those who had it taken away by that Northern bint, who in time will show, was an absolute embarrassment to her Party.

 

[Mellotron]

Please excuse me but ....do f*** off...!

Older people who are retired are often at home ALL day and not working physical jobs, or in centrally heated offices. They are often nowhere near as mobile as they were and younger people are. Good mobility helps keep you warm.

Just in case you didn;'t read the earlier part of my post..."do f*** off".

Point proven, with bells on!

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I'm actually inland from la Rochelle and it is a very comfortable 24 degrees. Thank you for asking..

I don't get the heating allowance of course, but I really do care about so many of those who had it taken away by that Northern bint, who in time will show, was an absolute embarrassment to her Party.

It sounds lovely

I guess the issue is one of fairness between generations. Now this seems to be the sort of thing that is best discussed calmly as people take sides. And of course everyone agrees that old people who need heating subsidised should get it.

But the £35k cut off is a lot. The average UK working income is £37k. And if you're working age you have a lot more financial commitments on average. Can you put together an argument that it's fair for an average working age person to subsidise the heating of a retired person with an income of, say £30k?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What are the temperatures like in La Rochelle?

Hot, given the steam coming out of @cjd 's ears!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Basics. Every pensioner who earns under £35,000 will get £200 (per household). Over 80's get £300

More than 75% of pensioners to get winter fuel payment as Reeves confirms major U-turn - live updates

Pensioners in England and Wales with an annual income below £35,000 will now be eligible, reversing one of the government's first major policies.

www.bbc.co.uk

Just need to do a U-turn on benefit cuts now, and Labour will have a reset back to where they should have started in the first place - which is targeting tax-dodging multi-nationals and the obscenely rich

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'm actually inland from la Rochelle and it is a very comfortable 24 degrees. Thank you for asking..

I don't get the heating allowance of course, but I really do care about so many of those who had it taken away by that Northern bint, who in time will show, was an absolute embarrassment to her Party.

Nothing worse than an expat telling those back home how to live their lives!