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[Football] Men’s FA Cup Final Match Thread - KO 16.30***
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Not for me, Clyde.
Oh, very good.
However there is a lot of truth in that, at least this evening I’ll be celebrating/giving out a sigh of relief or at worst coming to terms with it. It’s the unknown limbo that I find most painful.
Van Cleef
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- Jun 17, 2023
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I feel like it's 1987 again and I'm sitting in the test centre waiting for my driving test to start.
Hometownglory
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Oh don't.Depressing to think that pretty well everyone in the country will be backing Palace other than most Albion (we do seem to have some weird fans who want a Palace win, sadly) and all City fans
The wankfest in the media if they win will be intense and as long lasting as Newcastle winning the League Cup
How do teams qualify for European competition?
UEFA Champions League
The top five teams in the Premier League will qualify for next season’s Champions League.This is because, thanks to the performances of Premier League clubs in all of UEFA’s competitions this season, England is guaranteed a top-two spot in UEFA's association club coefficient rankings, which earns a "European Performance Spot" (EPS).
The Premier League will actually have SIX clubs in next season's Champions League - the top five teams in the league, plus whoever triumph out of Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur in the Europa League final.
The battle for a top-five spot in the league is heating up, with only the champions Liverpool guaranteed a top-five finish. The race to secure the other four remaining places is wide open, with SIX teams vying to secure a spot.
Both Chelsea and Aston Villa took giant strides in their hopes of qualifying for the Champions League by beating Man Utd and Spurs respectively.
The Blues move up to fourth as Marc Cucurella gave them a 1-0 win at Stamford Bridge.
And at Villa Park second-half strikes from Ezri Konsa and Boubacar Kamara saw Villa earn a 2-0 success as they secured their eighth win from their last nine matches to move above Manchester City and into fifth.
Race for Champions League - remaining fixtures
| Team | MW37 | MW38 |
| ARS | NEW (H) | SOU (A) |
|---|---|---|
| MCI | BOU (H) | FUL (A) |
| NEW | ARS (A) | EVE (H) |
| CHE | 1-0 (W) v MUN | NFO (A) |
| NFO | WHU (A) | CHE (H) |
| AVL | 2-0 (W) v TOT | MUN (A) |
UEFA Europa League
English football receives two Europa League places.One is traditionally awarded to the fifth-placed finisher in the Premier League, but this season it will go to the sixth-placed team because England have received an additional fifth Champions League spot.
The other Europa League place goes to the winners of the FA Cup. Crystal Palace face Man City in the final at Wembley Stadium on 17 May.
UEFA Conference League
The winners of the EFL Cup qualify for the Conference League.This season, Newcastle secured a European spot when they triumphed over Liverpool at Wembley, ending their 56-year wait for a trophy in the process.
How else can clubs make it to Europe?
So far, so simple. But things rarely play out as such.In addition to booking European berths by virtue of domestic performances, clubs can also do so through their showings in Europe.
The winners of the Champions League and Europa League qualify for the following season’s Champions League, while the winners of the Conference League book a spot in next year’s Europa League.
Still following? Now let’s chuck a few more possible scenarios into the mix, relating to the two European places awarded to England’s domestic cup winners.
If the FA Cup winners qualify for the Champions League or the Europa League via their Premier League position, or by winning the Champions League, their (FA Cup-won) Europa League place is then transferred to the next-highest Premier League finisher not already qualified for UEFA competitions.
Likewise, if the EFL Cup winners qualify for the Champions League or Europa League via other means - their league position, or by winning the FA Cup or either of those European competitions - their Conference League place will go to the next-highest Premier League side who have not qualified for Europe.
That is what Newcastle are hoping for, to finish high enough in the Premier League to trade their Conference League spot from winning the EFL Cup this season for a place in one of the other European competitions. Here’s where things could get interesting…
FA Cup could have an impact
The two FA Cup finalists, Man City and Crystal Palace, could have a bearing on the race for Europe.If Man City qualify for the Champions League via their Premier League position and win the FA Cup, their reward for the latter - a Europa League place - would be passed to the next-highest team in the league who have not qualified for the Champions League or Europa League.
If Palace lift the FA Cup, they will take the Europa League place awarded to the winning side at Wembley Stadium.
How could eighth qualify for Europe?
An eighth-place finish in the Premier League could be rewarded with entry into Europe next season.If Man City win the FA Cup while also qualifying for Europe through their league position, and Newcastle also qualify through their league position after winning the EFL Cup, the two European places given to the domestic trophy-winners will be passed down the league table.
The prospect of the eighth-placed team qualifying for Europe means Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton & Hove Albionand Fulham all have European football as an incentive as they head into their remaining Premier League matches.
The only head-to-head match within the quartet is on 18 May, when Fulham visit Brentford in a west London derby.
I’ve had a Palace lad helping me all week at work. Had a pint on the way home with him for Fridats and he’s a great guy. He grew up only really knowing about rivalries with Millwall and Charlton. Luckily I’ve had a whole week to regale him with stories of the 70s and 80s……I can talk to him because he’s a proper fan and no glory hunter. No of course I’m not weakening….
Birdie Boy
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The question was what happens if City won the cup and get relegated due to PSR? Presumably it will still go down to 8th and everyone moves up a place and City play in UEL.
If Palace won the cup and City relegated, does it still go to 7th and we all move up one place and hope we do finish 8th?
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Its a bit odd. I am going to watch this with a fair bit of passion, not because I want a team to win, but rather I want a team to lose.
5 - 1 City win.
Brian Munich
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- Jul 7, 2008
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There’s no way City are going to want to end the season without a trophy. Also, they only need 4 points from their final two games to finish 5th, which they’d surely back themselves to get.
Brian Munich
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In that case the Europa place goes to 6th and Conference to 7th. So effectively we still need to finish 8th.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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God I hope palace lose. It'll be unbearable if they don't.