[Albion] The official new DRUM in/out discussion

[Is it PotG?]

Hah! It was the notebook style reporting of said event

Well I WAS observing from an easterly direction....

 

[oneillco]

I sincerely hope that everyone who said "NO" to a drum sings at every opportunity to try and lift the atmosphere, because evidence of for e.g. the first half against Newcastle, 90% of the crowd is willing to just sit back and mumble to their mates about their pie being too hot.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

I was at Charlton last evening and the balance was near perfect.
The said percussion did not dominate, merely instigating a chant to which all committed.

The tempo of said chant was then maintained by the beat, until the natural fade of both.

I know we don't need it as unity and tempo are by no means an issue, but as an outsider I felt it worked at at The Valley.

That Charlton drummer, + block of around 50, outsang 7K Brighton away fans a couple of years ago...

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I sincerely hope that everyone who said "NO" to a drum sings at every opportunity to try and lift the atmosphere, because evidence of for e.g. the first half against Newcastle, 90% of the crowd is willing to just sit back and mumble to their mates about their pie being too hot.

Have a listen to the grounds where a drum is. Sounds totally tinpot and most the time no-one joins in and all that can be heard is a boring repetitive beat. If Charlton needed a drummer to get going for an important play-off then that's sad.

 

[A1X]

I still don’t understand why there’s a difference between a drum (boo) and the guy in the North who bangs the back wall to generate a beat for some of our chants

 

[brighton_tom]

I still don’t understand why there’s a difference between a drum (boo) and the guy in the North who bangs the back wall to generate a beat for some of our chants

Because if someone brings a drum they will be inclined to use it for 90 minutes, which would be incredibly irritating, as opposed to that guy banging the back of the wall a few times a game.

 

[Happy Exile]

I still don’t understand why there’s a difference between a drum (boo) and the guy in the North who bangs the back wall to generate a beat for some of our chants

There’s something for me (probably illogical) about bringing in a drum feeling like we’re being instructed and led by someone and I naturally recoil against that. I also have a bit of (probably irrational) distaste for the “look at me” gene that’d be necessarily rampant in whoever the drummer would be. Someone occasionally banging a wall feels a bit different. But then I despise the brass instruments at England games and others love them so I know nothing.

 

[oneillco]

There’s something for me (probably illogical) about bringing in a drum feeling like we’re being instructed and led by someone and I naturally recoil against that. I also have a bit of (probably irrational) distaste for the “look at me” gene that’d be necessarily rampant in whoever the drummer would be. Someone occasionally banging a wall feels a bit different. But then I despise the brass instruments at England games and others love them so I know nothing.

Or it could be someone committed enough to try and get the atmosphere going while the vast majority sit and grumble about the atmosphere being flat...

 

[Is it PotG?]

Because if someone brings a drum they will be inclined to use it for 90 minutes, which would be incredibly irritating, as opposed to that guy banging the back of the wall a few times a game.

Certainly wasn't the case at The Valley on Tuesday.

As I said, was used sparingly, did not dominate the proceedings and maintained a good song tempo. You only have to listen to SbtS to know how fantastic we are at that.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Or it could be someone committed enough to try and get the atmosphere going while the vast majority sit and grumble about the atmosphere being flat...

But generally drums do NOT improve atmosphere. See Bournemouth, Emirates etc.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Certainly wasn't the case at The Valley on Tuesday.

As I said, was used sparingly, did not dominate the proceedings and maintained a good song tempo. You only have to listen to SbtS to know how fantastic we are at that.

This was a play off game. Did we need a drum against Massive?

 

[Is it PotG?]

This was a play off game. Did we need a drum against Massive?

Indeed no, but not sure we had the 3 separate Norff Stand sections back then either.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Indeed no, but not sure we had the 3 separate Norff Stand sections back then either.

I was in the family stand and the noise from all areas was incredible. The best atmosphere through a game I've ever witnessed in over 50 years of watching us. David Blunkett was there and said it was the best atmosphere he'd ever experienced. It mattered not one jot whether we had one, two or three areas in the north stand making different songs, each stand stood up and made a difference.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I was in the family stand and the noise from all areas was incredible. The best atmosphere through a game I've ever witnessed in over 50 years of watching us. David Blunkett was there and said it was the best atmosphere he'd ever experienced. It mattered not one jot whether we had one, two or three areas in the north stand making different songs, each stand stood up and made a difference.

I agree.

As I said, I think things are different now.

I'm not too bothered as I wouldn't be doing it, just an observation from Tuesday.

 

[JonnyComeEarly]

The drum should just keep the singing going for longer and at a proper pacece - which is exactly what the people at the back of the north stand seem to do banging the walls

If that happened it would be a good addition

 

[oneillco]

But generally drums do NOT improve atmosphere. See Bournemouth, Emirates etc.

Right so that's proven beyond any doubt that "drums do NOT improve atmosphere".
I must have imagined all those games I've attended in Europe where a well used drum keeps the tempo right and prolongs the songs. (why the hell do we speed-up when singing GOSBTS?)

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Right so that's proven beyond any doubt that "drums do NOT improve atmosphere".
I must have imagined all those games I've attended in Europe where a well used drum keeps the tempo right and prolongs the songs. (why the hell do we speed-up when singing GOSBTS?)

European 'ultras'. Hideous and not an atmosphere I have any interest in whatsoever. Incessant noise totally unrelated to what's happening on the pitch, far removed from the organic noise generated by a team playing well.

 

[JonnyComeEarly]

We may need to get a drum. And a drummer that just keeps the noise and tempo going - not one that just bangs like bournemouth when theres no actual singing

We need a big increase in atmosphere next season and nothing else has ever worked

 

[John1066]

We may need to get a drum. And a drummer that just keeps the noise and tempo going - not one that just bangs like bournemouth when theres no actual singing

We need a big increase in atmosphere next season and nothing else has ever worked

Let’s start low key, who can remember how to play the recorder

 

[wehatepalace]

It’s time !
Something needs to be done to improve an atmosphere that quite frankly is getting worse every season!
I certainly think a drum will unify the north stand, and perhaps slow down some of the songs that are song like an old vinyl on the wrong speed.
Maybe with the safe standing coming in, now might be the time to give it a try !