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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)







A1X

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BBC have just announced that Putin Won't attend the meeting in Turkey on Friday.
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Hugo Rune

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It seems that Zelensky’s on his way to Istanbul, but Russia is sending a low level delegation. If true it’s yet more evidence that Putin has no interest in peace. Time for Trump to choose sides.
I suspect he'll continue to run in circles, like a deranged hampster in a wheel.

Putin is playing him like a fiddle. He has no interest in peace unless it's on his terms. Trump will be unable to persuade Ukraine or their European allies to accept Putin's victory.

So round and round we go again with more Trumpian hot air and bullshit.
 


peterward

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I suspect he'll continue to run in circles, like a deranged hampster in a wheel.

Putin is playing him like a fiddle. He has no interest in peace unless it's on his terms. Trump will be unable to persuade Ukraine or their European allies to accept Putin's victory.

So round and round we go again with more Trumpian hot air and bullshit.
Yep.

 






raymondo

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It seems that Zelensky’s on his way to Istanbul, but Russia is sending a low level delegation. If true it’s yet more evidence that Putin has no interest in peace. Time for Trump to choose sides
I still feel Trump will acknowledge "how difficult it is for a busy tyrant like Putin to make such a meeting" and so do sweet f a.
 


Sirnormangall

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I suspect he'll continue to run in circles, like a deranged hampster in a wheel.

Putin is playing him like a fiddle. He has no interest in peace unless it's on his terms. Trump will be unable to persuade Ukraine or their European allies to accept Putin's victory.

So round and round we go again with more Trumpian hot air and bullshit.
You may be right but it will be interesting to see Trump’s response. Putin’s deliberate choice of a low level delegation is flipping the middle finger at the west, including Trump.
 














raymondo

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At c.14.30, Estonia tries to get a Russian tanker to go into port for inspection. Crew refuse and clearly call for protection. Russian fighter jet enters area violating Estonian airspace. No idea on the latest on this.
 






fly high

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Let's face it Russia has absolutely no intention to negotiate, they will do the same as they have so far, set out their demands, take it or leave it. The whole thing today is just a charade. Token gesture. Pretend negotiations. Witless will say their demands are reasonable, convince Trump (without much difficulty) it's Ukraine being difficult and he should support Russia.

Feeling very cynical this morning but everything Russia and Trump does makes me despair.
 




raymondo

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Let's face it Russia has absolutely no intention to negotiate, they will do the same as they have so far, set out their demands, take it or leave it. The whole thing today is just a charade. Token gesture. Pretend negotiations. Witless will say their demands are reasonable, convince Trump (without much difficulty) it's Ukraine being difficult and he should support Russia.

Feeling very cynical this morning but everything Russia and Trump does makes me despair.
Yes indeed. . waiting for black smoke from the chimney.
I have no faith that Trump will sanction his autocratic hero further.
 






fly high

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Phillips O'brien latest article just dropped. Putin believes Trump is on his side and is playing him as fool.

"Trump has been placed in a position where not only he could, but he should (if all those tweets were honest) move to hit Russia and help Ukraine. Putin, oddly, doesn’t seem worried that this will happen. Perhaps he thinks Trump is on his side, and that Trump’s public statements are full of sh@t. I mean, its not like the first signs are that Trump is already defending him."

Yep pretty much sums it up.
 


papachris

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At c.14.30, Estonia tries to get a Russian tanker to go into port for inspection. Crew refuse and clearly call for protection. Russian fighter jet enters area violating Estonian airspace. No idea on the latest on this.

 


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