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lawros left foot

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Peter Sullivan, convicted of the rape and murder of Diane Sindall in 1986 has had his conviction quashed after 38 years, due to advances in DNA technology.
He was the longest serving prisoner to be found completely innocent on appeal. Another case of a vulnerable adult being pressured into a false confession by Police Officers, with no legal representation present.

This has a disturbing number of similarities with the Stefan Kiszko case.

Thank God we did away with the death penalty.

Hopefully the Police will catch the perpetrator of this heinous crime.
 




The Clamp

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Hopefully they’ll not stall and delay his compensation and they’ll not deduct board and keep, like they did to that poor bloke Andrew Malkinson.

Who even got stopped going on holiday after 17 years of wrongful jail time.

Had to use food banks and couldn’t take an interim payment as he would lose legal aid.

I believe he has now received a six figure sum after two years of hardship.
 














Greg Bobkin

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One thing I don’t understand, the new DNA results came in last year, it’s taken 6 monthsplus to release the poor bugger.
Quite possibly lawyers (on both sides) dragging their heels and making a fortune. Although I'm sure there is a LOT of paperwork and bureaucracy involved to make sure they are 100% certain.
 




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Hopefully they’ll not stall and delay his compensation and they’ll not deduct board and keep, like they did to that poor bloke Andrew Malkinson.

Who even got stopped going on holiday after 17 years of wrongful jail time.

Had to use food banks and couldn’t take an interim payment as he would lose legal aid.

I believe he has now received a six figure sum after two years of hardship.
Even worse for Stefan Kiszko who I seem to recall died a year or so after release.

A man who also had learning difficulties who, when asked why he confessed, said he was frightened they were going to hit him.

They eventually caught the killer a decade or so later.
 


Thunder Bolt

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One thing I don’t understand, the new DNA results came in last year, it’s taken 6 monthsplus to release the poor bugger.
A queue for court time, especially when many courts were closed in the name of austerity. There had to be an appeal to present the new evidence which cleared his name.
 


Thunder Bolt

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Quite possibly lawyers (on both sides) dragging their heels and making a fortune. Although I'm sure there is a LOT of paperwork and bureaucracy involved to make sure they are 100% certain.
Criminal lawyers do not make a fortune. There are set fees for both prosecution and defence criminal barristers and solicitors.
 




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Peter Sullivan, convicted of the rape and murder of Diane Sindall in 1986 has had his conviction quashed after 38 years, due to advances in DNA technology.
He was the longest serving prisoner to be found completely innocent on appeal. Another case of a vulnerable adult being pressured into a false confession by Police Officers, with no legal representation present.

This has a disturbing number of similarities with the Stefan Kiszko case.

Thank God we did away with the death penalty.

Hopefully the Police will catch the perpetrator of this heinous crime.
This is exactly why I am against the death penalty.
 


lawros left foot

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Even worse for Stefan Kiszko who I seem to recall died a year or so after release.

A man who also had learning difficulties who, when asked why he confessed, said he was frightened they were going to hit him.

They eventually caught the killer a decade or so later.


Stefan Kiszko died in a mental hospital, he never recovered from his prison time, which, as a ‘convicted’nonce was made unbearable by fellow inmates and prison officers alike.

I know of people who changed their minds about the death penalty when they read the true facts of his case.

The Senior Police Officer in charge of the case was never prosecuted for perjury, which he undoubtedly committed as “ it wasn’t in the public interest “.
 


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Stefan Kiszko died in a mental hospital, he never recovered from his prison time, which, as a ‘convicted’nonce was made unbearable by fellow inmates and prison officers alike.

I know of people who changed their minds about the death penalty when they read the true facts of his case.

The Senior Police Officer in charge of the case was never prosecuted for perjury, which he undoubtedly committed as “ it wasn’t in the public interest “.
Yeah, the Lesley Molseed case. Like you I remember it; a truly dreadful episode. It's always stayed with me and kept me a committed opponent of capital punishment. Lesley's family, who at first accepted the verdict, eventually came round to the fact he was innocent and graciously said that Lesley's murder had had 'two victims'.
 




Greg Bobkin

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I very rarely read books, but the last one I DID read – The Sun Does Shine, by Anthony Ray Hinton – reinforced my views about the death penalty and how there's still a LONG way to go to overcome 'the system' and right the wrongs of miscarriages of justice.

Let's hope Mr Sullivan is looked after from here – in EVERY way.
 


Lenny Rider

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This is exactly why I am against the death penalty.
On the flip side where do you stand on the likes of Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting, clearly guilty And deserving of execution?

It’s a tough one, never mind this Gent, in my lifetime, I’ve seen the Guildford 4, Birmingham 6 and the Carl Bridgewater 3, 13 people originally found guilty, who in days gone by would have hung, yet they were all later proved innocent.

As much as I’d have agreed with the hanging of both Huntley and Whiting, and that of the now dead, Suttcliffe, Bishop and Brady, the 13 aforementioned Individuals make a death penalty unworkable.
 


Tubby Mondays

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Stefan Kiszko died in a mental hospital, he never recovered from his prison time, which, as a ‘convicted’nonce was made unbearable by fellow inmates and prison officers alike.

I know of people who changed their minds about the death penalty when they read the true facts of his case.

The Senior Police Officer in charge of the case was never prosecuted for perjury, which he undoubtedly committed as “ it wasn’t in the public interest “.
I can remember him getting released but it didn’t really resonate with me what had happened until I did a law degree in later life.

I can vividly remember writing an essay on a Sunday morning in tears about what he and his mum and aunt had gone through. For example they used to move him to another prison but not tell his mum so that she’d turn up to the prison for an arranged visit and he wouldn’t be there.

As has been said; thank flip we haven’t got the death penalty.
 


lawros left foot

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On the flip side where do you stand on the likes of Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting, clearly guilty And deserving of execution?

It’s a tough one, never mind this Gent, in my lifetime, I’ve seen the Guildford 4, Birmingham 6 and the Carl Bridgewater 3, 13 people originally found guilty, who in days gone by would have hung, yet they were all later proved innocent.

As much as I’d have agreed with the hanging of both Huntley and Whiting, and that of the now dead, Suttcliffe, Bishop and Brady, the 13 aforementioned Individuals make a death penalty unworkable.


Only my opinion, but, not executing the type of criminal that you mention, is the price a civilised society pays to remain civilised.
I am a long standing opponent of the death penalty, but, I to struggle with justifying the life sentence, instead of the death penalty in some cases. As a father and grandfather, any person who kills children is particularly difficult to defend against the ultimate sanction, but, if we as a country are to keep our humanity, we must never re-instate the death penalty for any crime.
 




Comrade Sam

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My family lost faith in British Justice in the 1960s. My Grandfather had gone from professional soldier, to prison warder, to Court Usher at the Old Bailey. One morning he was sacked on the spot for being drunk and bundled in a cab home. The cabbie said 'Blimey mate you're wrecked!' To which Wilbur Orville (my grandfather) slurred 'I don't drink!'
'f*** me, you're having a stroke.' Then rushed him to hospital. He did not get his job back on recovery.
 


Greg Bobkin

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On the flip side where do you stand on the likes of Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting, clearly guilty And deserving of execution?

It’s a tough one, never mind this Gent, in my lifetime, I’ve seen the Guildford 4, Birmingham 6 and the Carl Bridgewater 3, 13 people originally found guilty, who in days gone by would have hung, yet they were all later proved innocent.

As much as I’d have agreed with the hanging of both Huntley and Whiting, and that of the now dead, Suttcliffe, Bishop and Brady, the 13 aforementioned Individuals make a death penalty unworkable.
It's not a tough one to me - no death penalty, regardless of the crime. What good would it ACTUALLY do? It wouldn't bring anyone back and - should you think this way - a life of solitary confinement would arguably be more of a punishment that instant death and being put out of your misery.
 


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