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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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Good to know we're not the only family that has trouble finding competent tradesmen.
(PS I bet he doesn't recover from his coma
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- Aug 24, 2020
- 8,678
That's supply and demand at work. The good tradesmen are all in work and are not available.Good to know we're not the only family that has trouble finding competent tradesmen.
(PS I bet he doesn't recover from his coma
I regard it as fortunate that we are even aware of this incident. There's been a security clampdown, and Ukraine were right to stay away.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 8,678
The contortions that Russia makes to justify its refusal to agree a ceasefire:
Here it claims Ukraine would be at an advantage in a ceasefire because it receives weapons. Russia thinks this gives an uneven playing field, even though Russia receives arms from Iran and North Korea. But it would be a ceasefire. You don't need weapons in a ceasefire.
But the good news is twofold:
1. Russia is complaining about the results of its own invasion.
2. Russia thinks Ukraine is at an advantage.
Here it claims Ukraine would be at an advantage in a ceasefire because it receives weapons. Russia thinks this gives an uneven playing field, even though Russia receives arms from Iran and North Korea. But it would be a ceasefire. You don't need weapons in a ceasefire.
But the good news is twofold:
1. Russia is complaining about the results of its own invasion.
2. Russia thinks Ukraine is at an advantage.
The contortions that Russia makes to justify its refusal to agree a ceasefire:
Here it claims Ukraine would be at an advantage in a ceasefire because it receives weapons. Russia thinks this gives an uneven playing field, even though Russia receives arms from Iran and North Korea. But it would be a ceasefire. You don't need weapons in a ceasefire.
But the good news is twofold:
1. Russia is complaining about the results of its own invasion.
2. Russia thinks Ukraine is at an advantage.
So Trump and Vance must now realise that Russia has no interest in ceasefires or ending the war. As Zelensky has been telling them all along.
fly high
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Unfortunately they are deaf as well as stupid.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 8,678
It is unconscionable that collectively, all of them have been so wrong, for so long, in the face of a plethora of evidence to the contrary.
Those who seemed to be notionally pro-Ukraine (Kellogg, Rubio), have still kept their heads down.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 13,095
The contortions that Russia makes to justify its refusal to agree a ceasefire:
Here it claims Ukraine would be at an advantage in a ceasefire because it receives weapons. Russia thinks this gives an uneven playing field, even though Russia receives arms from Iran and North Korea. But it would be a ceasefire. You don't need weapons in a ceasefire.
But the good news is twofold:
1. Russia is complaining about the results of its own invasion.
2. Russia thinks Ukraine is at an advantage.
And of course a cease fire only means no firing at each other.
It doesn't mean Russia dials down its own massive weapons production or stockpiling. 1400 Iskander ballistic missiles per year i read
They still try and set conditions for a more defenseless, easier to Subjugate Ukraine.
This has some important messages: Chinese troops march in Red Square, North Korean 'generals' attend, Vietnam and Egypt (as well as the usual suspects) send delegations.
It may be shaky, but the Russian, Chinese, N Korean military alliance is real.
Make no mistake, Europe, you have your work cut out.
It may be shaky, but the Russian, Chinese, N Korean military alliance is real.
Make no mistake, Europe, you have your work cut out.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
I think china attends because NK attends. China won’t want Russia playing silly buggers with NK. It’s also a case of keeping an eye on Putin.
Or maybe China are pretending to help Russia look strong, but next year they'll send 100,000 troops for the parade, and then they'll take over Moscow without a shot fired
fly high
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This is what they have been saying since the ceasefire was first put forward. They can carry on supplying their front line but Ukraine had to stop everything. No new weapons, no recruitment, no training. They are just stalling and Trump and Vance still think they are seriously interested in peace. No they bloody well aren't.And of course a cease fire only means no firing at each other.
It doesn't mean Russia dials down its own massive weapons production or stockpiling. 1400 Iskander ballistic missiles per year i read
They still try and set conditions for a more defenseless, easier to Subjugate Ukraine.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 8,678
I've just seen this. WTAF?
Amateur hour doesn't begin to describe it.
Amateur hour doesn't begin to describe it.
- Jan 25, 2025
- 939
Witless strikes again 
OMG... I'm laughing because it's just so effing stupid, of the whole Trump Administration, not just Witless. No insistence from someone (Rubio, Waltz, Kellogg,
Trump even 
).Stupid? or yet another sign of being pro Russian??
- Jan 25, 2025
- 939
It’s just incompetence, the guy has never done this stuff before but probably acts like he’s the expert. In an administration like Trump’s, it’s unlikely people will be busting a gut to protect each other.OMG... I'm laughing because it's just so effing stupid, of the whole Trump Administration, not just Witless. No insistence from someone (Rubio, Waltz, Kellogg,
Stupid? or yet another sign of being pro Russian??
- Aug 24, 2020
- 8,678
I have to ask the question, given the level of ineptitude.
Who was responsible for recording the conversation, taking the minutes, and producing the transcript? Was that also the Kremlin?
I'm beginning to see how the Trump administration could have ended up giving Russia so many concessions, without Russia needing to give any concessions in return.
Who was responsible for recording the conversation, taking the minutes, and producing the transcript? Was that also the Kremlin?
I'm beginning to see how the Trump administration could have ended up giving Russia so many concessions, without Russia needing to give any concessions in return.
- Aug 24, 2020
- 8,678
Well, I knew they were clueless, but I didn't realise they were totally, absolutely, freaking clueless.
I remember saying the same sort of thing about Liz Truss. You knew she was useless, but you didn't fully appreciate just how dangerous she was, due to a toxic mixture of arrogance and ignorance.