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Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
65,128
The Fatherland
“The [US] deal also involves American exports of beef”

Yummy!
 




Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
24,831
Brighton
Bad Enoch says that our export tariffs to the US have tripled whilst we got rid of tariffs for US imports coming here.

If she is right, this is an awful deal. However, there is a possibility that she's not read it and is hoping folk will believe her narrative.
 




Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
16,620
Cumbria
Bad Enoch says that our export tariffs to the US have tripled whilst we got rid of tariffs for US imports coming here.

If she is right, this is an awful deal. However, there is a possibility that she's not read it and is hoping folk will believe her narrative.
Depends if she's talking about before or after 'Liberation Day'.

Like every other country, we're worse off that we were two months ago. But we are better off than we were a week ago.

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highflyer

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Jan 21, 2016
2,723
Lessons from Australia:


Most important IMO is this line: 'increasing the salience of your opponents’ core issues is a recipe that has repeatedly failed for mainstream parties in combating the far right'. Eg trying to compete on being nasty about migrants, trans people and environmental protesters simply reinforces in people's minds the lie that these are 'the problem'. And once people start to believe that, it isn't Labour they will be voting for!
 


darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
8,217
Sittingbourne, Kent
Lessons from Australia:


Most important IMO is this line: 'increasing the salience of your opponents’ core issues is a recipe that has repeatedly failed for mainstream parties in combating the far right'. Eg trying to compete on being nasty about migrants, trans people and environmental protesters simply reinforces in people's minds the lie that these are 'the problem'. And once people start to believe that, it isn't Labour they will be voting for!
Genuine question, what is the Australian media like? Is it as right leaning and biased as our own?
 




highflyer

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2016
2,723
Genuine question, what is the Australian media like? Is it as right leaning and biased as our own?
Similar I think (I don't live there but have many colleagues and friends there). Murdoch press is strong for obvious reasons. But someone that lives there may be able to confirm one way or the other.
 


Since1982

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2006
1,752
Burgess Hill
Depends if she's talking about before or after 'Liberation Day'.

Like every other country, we're worse off that we were two months ago. But we are better off than we were a week ago.

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And that is the really important point - Trump like it or not has changed everything so its right that the govt respond to the reality of today rather than the historical position. I heard the utterly shameless local MP Andrew Griffith on the radio this morning complaining that Labour should have done a better deal - compare and contrast with the complete failure of his party to do any sort of deal with the USA in all the years they were governing since Brexit.
 


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