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[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......



BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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I’m persisting mostly to ensure that his misinformation doesn’t go unchecked, for the benefit of other readers. I don’t have much confidence that the penny will descend along the y-axis anytime soon.

Good on you for doing it too. You can't make it much clearer for him but I guess he'll keep doubling down.
 




n1 gull

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Jul 25, 2003
4,720
Hurstpierpoint
Labour govt asking local councils to carry out rape gang inquiries is truly absurd, when the councils themselves may have something to hide. If Bradford council threatened investigators over grooming gangs, how can we trust them? Only a full statutory national inquiry will do.

Kemi Badenoch

More bloody misinformation ffs
 


SouthSaxon

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Jan 25, 2025
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Labour govt asking local councils to carry out rape gang inquiries is truly absurd, when the councils themselves may have something to hide. If Bradford council threatened investigators over grooming gangs, how can we trust them? Only a full statutory national inquiry will do.

Kemi Badenoch

More bloody misinformation ffs
Exactly, more bloody misinformation. Please, do some independent research away from social media and tabloid rags - it will improve your perspective on what needs to be done to solve what is a undeniably a blight on our society.

This is from her X/Twitter feed, sharing a GB News interview with a retired copper. What actually happened was that he had to be warned off from staking out a children's home and following the children about when they left. He wasn't an "investigator" any more, he was a member of the public, and he'd been at it for three months - even noting when local police were attending the home.

After three months he, and the charity he was working for, contacted the Bishop of Bradford to organise a big local meeting. That in itself is really suspicious, why not just report to Bradford police as a concerned ex-copper the first time he saw something untoward?!

The actual threat from the social worker, quoted in that article, was:

If you continue to follow our children, I'm going to have you arrested.

It sounds like she might have been, you know, doing her job? Let's remind ourselves that members of the public running around like they're Sherlock f***ing Holmes is generally frowned upon due to the distinct possibility that they royally f*** up real investigations and criminal cases.

Here is a link to that "journalism" for anyone who wants to check it for themselves: https://archive.is/xCnHT
 
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Chicken Run

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Jul 17, 2003
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The trade union organisation known as "Unite" not happy now . Could they reconsider withholding future funding of the labour party ?

The realities of shouting from the opposite benches at a nasty to government to then being one are polar opposites, it always has been and if Ms Graham thought a Labour Government was going to be anything different when they became the grownups sitting to the right side of the Speaker then i feel sorry for her like a young child finding out Father Christmas is allegedly not real…
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
27,040
Sussex by the Sea

Treasury minister Tulip Siddiq has resigned after growing pressure over an anti-corruption investigation in Bangladesh.

An arrest warrant has been issued for Tulip Siddiq accusing her of receiving a plot of land illegally from her despot aunt’s government.

Bangladesh’s Anti-Corruption Commission (ACC) believes the former City minister received a 7,200 square feet plot in the diplomatic zone of the capital Dhaka through “abuse of power and influence”.
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Back in Sussex
The trade union organisation known as "Unite" not happy now . Could they reconsider withholding future funding of the labour party ?

Unite have already stopped funding the Labour Party as they're not big fans of Starmer...

"Unite, the union, has given more than half a million pounds to 88 mostly left-leaning, Labour MPs after deliberately cutting funding to the party headquarters following Sir Keir Starmer’s shift to the centre ground.​
The union, which has more than a million members, was the single most generous donor to the Labour party under previous leaders Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn.​
But the union has switched its strategy to giving most of its donations to a phalanx of left-wing MPs rather than the party itself."​

 




carlzeiss

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May 19, 2009
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Unite have already stopped funding the Labour Party as they're not big fans of Starmer...

"Unite, the union, has given more than half a million pounds to 88 mostly left-leaning, Labour MPs after deliberately cutting funding to the party headquarters following Sir Keir Starmer’s shift to the centre ground.​
The union, which has more than a million members, was the single most generous donor to the Labour party under previous leaders Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn.​
But the union has switched its strategy to giving most of its donations to a phalanx of left-wing MPs rather than the party itself."​

Angela Raynor was one of the Labour MP's in Unite's pocket receiving £10,000 in 2024

 


SouthSaxon

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Jan 25, 2025
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What is wrong with some of these people? Someone (Blue Labour?) wants Starmer to be like Trump with the media, just saying any old shit regardless of whether it’s true.

“I watched the first few days of the Trump administration with envy. He was out there making announcements all the time.

Imagine if we had done the same thing. It doesn’t even matter whether your announcements are going to happen – the point is you are telling people who you are and what you want to do.”
Have they seen what Trump is doing?! We’ve already had a big dose of this with Boris and Lettuce Liz.

 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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A public inquiry requires all parties to attend and give evidence under oath
I don't think this is quite correct. I have attended / participated in loads of public inquiries - no-one was forced to attend (indeed it can be a little frustrating when your best potential witnesses don't want to speak) and I have never had to give evidence under oath. And many/most inquiries are a mix of 'live' witnesses and evidence submitted on paper without the witness attending at all.

I think there are some special provisions where a chair can issue a Notice compelling a witness to attend - but I don't think it happens very often. And it only applies to witnesses already identified as having relevant evidence.
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
27,040
Sussex by the Sea
According to the BBC:

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is being investigated by Parliament's standards watchdog after failing to declare on time that she received free theatre tickets.

It is understood the chancellor attended an event at the National Theatre over Christmas but did not add the donation to the MPs' register of interests within the specified timeframe.
 


Chicken Run

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Jul 17, 2003
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According to the BBC:

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is being investigated by Parliament's standards watchdog after failing to declare on time that she received free theatre tickets.

It is understood the chancellor attended an event at the National Theatre over Christmas but did not add the donation to the MPs' register of interests within the specified timeframe.
Easy mistake, nothing to see here, these aren’t the droids you’re looking for, move along…..
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,964
Hove
According to the BBC:

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is being investigated by Parliament's standards watchdog after failing to declare on time that she received free theatre tickets.

It is understood the chancellor attended an event at the National Theatre over Christmas but did not add the donation to the MPs' register of interests within the specified timeframe.
I think this news item has been staged.
 






Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
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Jul 21, 2003
21,084
Playing snooker
All is far from well in the Cabinet.

SKS currently grappling with if it in his best interests to keep dissenting voices inside - or to cut his loses and reshuffle the pack this summer ahead of the next Conference.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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All is far from well in the Cabinet.

SKS currently grappling with if it in his best interests to keep dissenting voices inside - or to cut his loses and reshuffle the pack this summer ahead of the next Conference.

Louise Haigh in a radio interview effectively today said that male cabinet members conspired to brief against her and other women ministers. A boys club.
 






Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,607
By Tory standards these "misdemeanours" are trivial. Labour need - and deserve - more time, and to be cut some slack. Starmer dumped Annelise Dodds for Reeves not long ago, so I can't see her being demoted.

Starmer has impressed on the world stage, probably the most statesmanlike leader we've had since Blair. I give them 8/10 on foreign policy, but a 'could do better' 6/10 on the domestic front.
 
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hart's shirt

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Jul 8, 2003
11,670
Kitbag in Dubai

‘Don’t mention the local elections’: Keir and Kemi sign non-aggression pact at PMQs


"You’d have thought it might have been a moment for contrition. Or failing that, a veneer of humility. At the very least a nano-second’s pause for self-reflection. An admission from Keir Starmer and Kemi Badenoch that voters had turned their backs on both of them at last week’s local elections. A potential kiss of death for England’s traditional two-party system.

Not a bit of it. Come prime minister’s questions and neither Keir nor Kemi was in the mood to give an inch. Everything was exactly as it should be. The locals – what locals? – had never happened. No one does amnesia better than politicians with their backs to the wall. It was almost as though they had signed a non-aggression pact. Just don’t mention the war.

Starmer at least had the grace – the clarity, even – to seem somewhat flustered. This wasn’t him at the top of his game. He seemed edgy, stumbling over his words from time to time. As though he, too, was aware there was something vaguely surreal about the whole performance. That there was a truth-shaped hole in his soul. Even the Labour backbenchers were unusually silent. They are increasingly desperate to find a reason to believe."

- John Crace


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...eir-and-kemi-sign-non-aggression-pact-at-pmqs
 


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