[Football] Arsenals two back to back premier league titles 2022/23 and 2023/24

[nickbrighton]

Interesting take on the bottle jobs inability to win the league-Arsenal had more points the past two seasons, than Liverpool had to win the title this season so they had two titles the past two seasons.

Should someone explain thats not how it works and that he needs to accept that his team are perennial also rans to City and now Liverpool.

I think I understand what he is trying to say , but surely even the Gooners must be tired of his excuses. The reason they haven't won anything of note with his teams (The FA Cup was Wengers team) isn't timing, isn't unbelievable never been seen before ,never given against other teams incidents, penalties, fouls etc but quite simply they haven't been good enough to beat the best team

Mikel Arteta: Arsenal manager blames timing for lack of trophies in recent seasons

Mikel Arteta believes timing is the reason Arsenal have not managed to win as many trophies as they would have liked over recent seasons.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[BBassic]

It's categorically hilarious that in a season where City have been far, far, far from their best and Liverpool have been playing under a new manager and dealing with, until recently, "will they / won't they" contract dramas with three of their talismanic players that Arsenal have still managed to finish 2nd...maybe.

 

[Bozza]

Every chance Arsenal will finish third in a two-horse race this season.

 

[JBizzle]

Interesting take on the bottle jobs inability to win the league-Arsenal had more points the past two seasons, than Liverpool had to win the title this season so they had two titles the past two seasons.

Should someone explain thats not how it works and that he needs to accept that his team are perennial also rans to City and now Liverpool.

I think I understand what he is trying to say , but surely even the Gooners must be tired of his excuses. The reason they haven't won anything of note with his teams (The FA Cup was Wengers team) isn't timing, isn't unbelievable never been seen before ,never given against other teams incidents, penalties, fouls etc but quite simply they haven't been good enough to beat the best team

Although true, Liverpool are on 82 points with three games left. 3 more and they "beat" Arsenal's 2022/23 total, and 9 more and they "beat" their 2023/24 total. Liverpool's points total is still good enough to win the title. Arsenal not winning the title this season is as much down to them not being good enough as it is Liverpool being the winners.

Let's not also forget that in 2018/19, Liverpool got 97 points and in 2021/22 Liverpool got 92 points so higher than the winners in most other seasons. The fact is, as you point out, it's irrelevant. Arsenal under Arteta is simply always second best because they have a poor mentality. They don't think like winners, they thinks like victims, and that comes right from Arteta, all the way down through the club to the fans.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Although true, Liverpool are on 82 points with three games left. 3 more and they "beat" Arsenal's 2022/23 total, and 9 more and they "beat" their 2023/24 total. Liverpool's points total is still good enough to win the title. Arsenal not winning the title this season is as much down to them not being good enough as it is Liverpool being the winners.

Let's not also forget that in 2018/19, Liverpool got 97 points and in 2021/22 Liverpool got 92 points so higher than the winners in most other seasons. The fact is, as you point out, it's irrelevant. Arsenal under Arteta is simply always second best because they have a poor mentality. They don't think like winners, they thinks like victims, and that comes right from Arteta, all the way down through the club to the fans.

Spot on. It's classic Arsenal inferiority complex, they have been a terrific side for the past few seasons, they just don't believe it. At least as far as the League is concerned.

Who knows going up against a PSG with a few ghosts of their own to contend with they maybe able to get to the ECL Final, but I'd say they are still favourites to be second in the League next year again.

 

[pb21]

Interesting take on the bottle jobs inability to win the league-Arsenal had more points the past two seasons, than Liverpool had to win the title this season so they had two titles the past two seasons.

Should someone explain thats not how it works and that he needs to accept that his team are perennial also rans to City and now Liverpool.

I think I understand what he is trying to say , but surely even the Gooners must be tired of his excuses. The reason they haven't won anything of note with his teams (The FA Cup was Wengers team) isn't timing, isn't unbelievable never been seen before ,never given against other teams incidents, penalties, fouls etc but quite simply they haven't been good enough to beat the best team

Mikel Arteta: Arsenal manager blames timing for lack of trophies in recent seasons

Mikel Arteta believes timing is the reason Arsenal have not managed to win as many trophies as they would have liked over recent seasons.

www.bbc.co.uk

Footage of Arteta coming up with his theorem.

 

[Berty23]

Don’t forget that Liverpool didn’t put out strong side vs Chelsea. So they had 82 off 34 games. Have Arsenal been in a better position than that?

Arteta is a deflecting idiot.

 

[Badger]

I used to not really mind Arsenal, back in the Wenger days. Arteta really is a clown though, and I find myself hating Arsenal more and more with every nonsense "excuse" he comes out with.

 

[GT49er]

Just Arteta making an arse of himself again. Nothing to see here.

 

[Berty23]

I used to not really mind Arsenal, back in the Wenger days. Arteta really is a clown though, and I find myself hating Arsenal more and more with every nonsense "excuse" he comes out with.

When we were knocking about lower leagues Arsenal were the team I wanted to win the prem. I did not support them but they are the team I wanted to win over United, Chelsea etc.but now I can’t stand them.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Don’t forget that Liverpool didn’t put out strong side vs Chelsea. So they had 82 off 34 games. Have Arsenal been in a better position than that?

Arteta is a deflecting idiot.

This.

It is almost as if he's been watching Trump on the telly.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I used to not really mind Arsenal, back in the Wenger days. Arteta really is a clown though, and I find myself hating Arsenal more and more with every nonsense "excuse" he comes out with.

Would have preferred them to win the league over city a couple seasons back as they are not state backed, but not anymore mainly down to arteta

 

[JBizzle]

Spot on. It's classic Arsenal inferiority complex, they have been a terrific side for the past few seasons, they just don't believe it. At least as far as the League is concerned.

Who knows going up against a PSG with a few ghosts of their own to contend with they maybe able to get to the ECL Final, but I'd say they are still favourites to be second in the League next year again.

You can see it set in during both games against us. Well on top at their place and at ours, then Rice goes off and they concede a penalty and suddenly their heads went.

They simply cannot overcome obstacles, and the fact that Arteta is always willing to use those decisions let's the players off the hook. If they stopped focusing so much on agendas and looked at addressing their own failings (dropping points from leading positions, signing endless defensive players and no attackers of note, collapsing at the first sign of resistance) then they'd have a much better chance of winning the league. Until then, as you say, nailed on second best.

I don think it's a shame though because over the last few seasons, Arsenal have been a joy to watch at times. I just wish that tactically Arteta would remember he also had Pep and Wenger as mentors and not so much Moyes.

 

[WhingForPresident]

Everything about Arsenal is just unbearable. Not sure what I want more, them to get stuffed tonight or to have the extra delicious layer of them getting all excited before getting stuffed in the final. Either way, you can guarantee when they do lose, it'll be 'the ref's fault' and they'll still be crying about it in 10 years' time.

 

[Weststander]

It's silly. Liverpool and ManC (and Arse just once, but they bottled it well before the last day) were involved in huge points totals battles, never seen before I think. It's similar to saying only those count, all the Manure, Blackburn, Leicester and Arsenal titles were lucky. Also you can't aftertime pick and choose ad hoc periods where you claim to the de facto champions.

Arsenal have spent vast sums backing Arteta in recent seasons. Liverpool and Tottenham managers for example have never had that sustained backing window after window. He hasn't come up with the goods .... subject to tonight.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

When Liverpool finished second in the 18-19 season they got 97 points, no team has beaten that since. So using Arteta logic Liverpool have won 6 titles in a row. Unlucky Arsenal.

 

[pb21]

When you think about it Arsenal have already won this years Champions League because they knocked out last years winner Real Madrid. In fact, logically, that makes Arsenal the team that has won most European Cups too.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Clumsy wording maybe, but if you watch the video he is smiling as he said that. It sounds worse in type than it does when you hear the video.

But I agree with those saying Arsenal don't have the mentality to win the league

When Liverpool are a goal up they look to smash teams. Arsenal go into their shell and hold on. Not in itself a bad tactic, but an insight into the negative mentality that pervades the club. The excuses and dalliance with outright conspiracy theory. Again, points to a negative mentality.

They have some very good players, particularly defensive and in midfield. But not good enough to be first. But hey. Being second isn't all bad right? Every club wants to take that extra step up the league, but look at Spurs, look at Man U and be careful what you wish for

 

[Official Old Man]

Can someone explain how Man City are 3rd and likely to finish 2nd?
They were being beaten by all and sundry at one stage, was it 6 in a row and they've lost as many as The Albion, and yet there they are 3rd.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Can someone explain how Man City are 3rd and likely to finish 2nd?
They were being beaten by all and sundry at one stage, was it 6 in a row and they've lost as many as The Albion, and yet there they are 3rd.

I THINK it is because they have more points than the other 17 teams.