[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[dsr-burnley]

I'm just trying to explore why Farage is against work from home.

Loss of revenue from office blocks / VAT & tax seem to be the main driver

I believe it is because he thinks that working from home is detrimental to the quality of service the taxpayer is getting from civil servants.

Is he proposing action against companies that allow working from home? I thought it was just government employees and the like?

 

[Weststander]

Working from home …. aside from the party politics here, there are discussions and research on what’s best for productivity. I’ve read recent articles where hybrid arrangements were mentioned as best for all.

NSC may contain an older working population demographic, plus a lot of folk who commuted to London. All now naturally averse to commuting. R4 have had interesting progs where there was a clear split. The demographic I mentioned above want to WFH every working day, whilst younger workers prefer going in and face to face rapport with colleagues.

Going back to Reform, one of their gripes is civil servants working from home since March 2020, with call centre wait times growing ever longer with the same staff numbers since then. HMRC wait times each year are published, they look awful just now.

 

[A1X]

It's because we need to go back to how things used to be in the good old days. Nobody WFH then. Nowadays it's just political correctness gone mad.

Can’t spell “Work From Home” without “Woke”

 

[dsr-burnley]

Of course, a decent percentage of self-employed people are based out of their home. Where are they meant to suddenly 'go' to work?

A lot of them go to work at their customers. Builders, plumbers, decorators, gardeners, window cleaners, and the like.

But regardless, people who are their own boss are permanently under the boss's eye regardless of where they work, so the strictures against WFH don't apply to them.

(Or were you making a joke?)

 

[Thunder Bolt]

They're not taxing anyone WFH, they're reclaiming tax relief that was claimed when not applicable.

£6 a week. It is just £6 a week.

You‘re using your own electricity, heating, and broadband and now HMRC want to snatch back £6 a week.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I believe it is because he thinks that working from home is detrimental to the quality of service the taxpayer is getting from civil servants.

Is he proposing action against companies that allow working from home? I thought it was just government employees and the like?

He has a plan?

I thought it was just gaslighting.
Like he's doing with 'DEI'.
He will stop 'funding' of diversity equality and inclusion 'officers'.
OK Nige. You're a soppy, frog-faced manner old ****, and I suspect a latent homosexual,
and I'm going to campaign against you. Especially about the latent homosexual bit.
People in denial Make Me Sick.
If you can't be honest about yourself that makes you a liar.
Farage is a liar.

Yes, I know, you don't care, because you are winner.
But you can't sue me after you have binned DEI.
Liar.

 

[abc]

No it's not. If it were to happen it will be down to people voting for Fascists, no other reason

But if you're incapable of taking responsibilIty for your vote there's always the same old excuses "It's not my fault I voted that way, they made me do it'

And in a nutshell, that’s the attitude that will give Farage the keys to No 10

 

[OzMike]

All the time the 'big' political parties keep breaking, or do not even try implementing election promises, then Reform will win.
The general populace is sick to death of not getting what they voted for and seeing the results of this unfold before them.
Their results may seem insignificant, but they are growing bigger with each election.

 

[Littlemo]

And in a nutshell, that’s the attitude that will give Farage the keys to No 10

No. What would do that is if enough people vote for them. This “Attitude towards us” an old and worn out excuse, because it doesn’t matter what anyone says, nice, nasty, facts or fiction - Reform voters aren’t interested in debate, and they aren’t interested in listening to anything.

Look at the USA, MAGA is functioning essentially like a cult. They follow Trump and his cabinet, they don’t care what they say or do, they’ll rationalise the bad stuff they know is out of line and cheer on the stuff he does that they like.

One of their main tactics is to blame shift and blame the Democrats. It’s the Democrats fault Trump is in power, because Kamala cackles and Biden is senile. But it’s not. The only people responsible for Trump is the Republicans who let him run and the idiots that voted for him (or didn’t vote at all).

That’s essentially reform voters here. “It’s Labours fault” or the Tories etc etc. No the only people responsible are those who enable the likes of Farage and those who vote for him. It’s nothing to do with anyone else,’or anything they say. That’s just shifting the blame.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The last 20 pages or so of this thread are dominated by the hope that Reform get ‘found out’ but they won’t be because too many people simply don’t care. The rise of Reform is entirely down to the failure of the Tories and the current failure of this new Labour government. Unless people have faith in the alternative, many will vote Reform regardless.

Whether Reform continue to attract support (and maybe eventually win a GE) is now entirely down to Labour. So far, Labour’s inept economic and appalling social policies are driving people to Remain.

I wish it were not so.

Freudian slip?

Btw there are more than three parties to vote for.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

All the time the 'big' political parties keep breaking, or do not even try implementing election promises, then Reform will win.
The general populace is sick to death of not getting what they voted for and seeing the results of this unfold before them.
Their results may seem insignificant, but they are growing bigger with each election.

Another party made big gains at the expense of the Tories but you wouldn’t know it.

 

[BadFish]

I f***ing did not vote for Brexit!! And I would never vote for that **** Farage!

But that doesn’t mean it isn’t going to happen. Look at Brexit / Trump (twice). The UK is heading in that direction, as much as lots of left-leaning people (like myself) pretend that it isn’t.

By 'you' I meant the UK rather than you personally.

 

[BadFish]

Canada and Australia have seen sense, and by the time the next General Election comes round, those relying on Reform to help them, will realise they’re useless, just like the voters in Clacton are doing.

It's all relative, Australia had the opportunity to give both major parties a bloody nose in yesterday's election. There is a lot wrong with the Labor party and they have a mandate to keep doing it.

Still as you suggest it is far better than Dutton and his Liberals.

 

[chickens]

And in a nutshell, that’s the attitude that will give Farage the keys to No 10

Actually, I think you’ll find that it would be winning a general election that would do that.

Let’s look at the story so far, shall we?

Nigel Farage, had a job in Europe, didn’t go, but clung onto the money.

2024 is elected as an MP, hasn’t been regularly seen in his constituency, and has only turned up in the chamber sparingly, leaving his constituents largely unrepresented. Has hung on to all of the money.

He clearly isn’t working from home, given his distaste for the practice, so one can only assume that the British taxpayer is paying for him to rim Donald Trump, making him the first British human bidet.

You absolutely can fool people once, but when you then take the piss, which he absolutely is, they won’t vote for you again. You do actually have to do some work as an MP if you want to take and retain a seat. If his acolytes take the same carefree approach to representing their constituents, they’ll start losing their first seats at the same time as Reform start gaining their second set at the next GE.

 

[clapham_gull]

The political left.

That God is was the political left, the non-political left get right on my tits.

Especially on escalators.

 

[jcdenton08]

That election could be politics defining

 

[rogersix]

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i'm a patriot, not a flag shagger

 

[rogersix]

Someone needs to change your nappy hahahaha

your writing style reminds me of peter ustinov

 

[Eeyore]

Sir John Curtice: The map that reveals the extent of Reform's triumph

It suggests the party was particularly popular among those who voted for Brexit in 2016 and for Boris Johnson in 2019.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[rogersix]

In my line of work, I work with a lot of people who are below the bread line/just about on the bread line, also spend time in pubs etc mingling with people.

Majority hold the view that DEI is a waste of tax money (why not use it for the NHS or house building?) and that people who work from home provide into the economy less (less money spent on travel/lunch out etc)

Perhaps Farage is against working from home because he perceives the above point to be true, and wants more spent to increase the treasury budget

working from home decreases traffic congestion and all of the associated downsides