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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
- Start date
- Nov 11, 2009
- 13,077
Encouraging article in the Telegraph about Russias financial woes and what the minerals deal can do to Russian LNG markets.
"The tables have turned and Putins Russia is now in dire trouble"
All positive stuff as we sit in hope of the full economic meltdown!
Unpaywalled link.
"The tables have turned and Putins Russia is now in dire trouble"
All positive stuff as we sit in hope of the full economic meltdown!
Unpaywalled link.
The Clamp
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I’m sure but we have been hearing this from day one.
I think there are a number of reasons Russia could lose this war. Lack of money and resources will not be one of them. Guaranteed.
Blues Guitarist
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Puten in German means turkey hen.I've been doing some research and apparently 'Putin' means metal container for storing human or animal faeces.
Sounds about right.
(sorry, I've had a drink)
hampshirebrightonboy
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- Sep 3, 2011
- 1,091
Lovely stuff
- Nov 11, 2009
- 13,077
Thats what they said in WW1 and at the end of the USSR.
You may be right, but I'm not so sure.
If it does it will be sudden.
I think he was making a joke on Poo Tin...
GoldstoneVintage
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Impeccable logic here: if I want to steal your house, but you don't want me to. We can just divide the house between us. Simples. 
"Vance said the question facing the US administration now was how it could help Russia and Ukraine "find middle ground" to end the conflict that has been raging for more than three years."
www.bbc.com
"Vance said the question facing the US administration now was how it could help Russia and Ukraine "find middle ground" to end the conflict that has been raging for more than three years."
JD Vance: Russia's war in Ukraine not ending 'any time soon'
The US vice-president says it is still up to Russia and Ukraine to end the "brutal" conflict.
www.bbc.com
GoldstoneVintage
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Indeed. Frustration sometimes reduces me to puerile insults.
I'd assumed it was the alcohol.Indeed. Frustration sometimes reduces me to puerile insults.
- Aug 24, 2020
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As hard as we try, and as much as we wish, none of us can see into the future.
Three years on this thread have taught me one thing. Nothing* is guaranteed or not guaranteed where Russia is concerned. The reason is that everything is opaque, disguised, falsified, protected. And that's just from the Russian people.
* there is perhaps one thing that we can guarantee - that things are going to be worse than the official figures.
In guaranteeing that Russia won't lose the war due to lack of money and resources, you commit the fallacy of history. Briefly, it goes like this. Historians are guilty of hindsight bias. Because something has happened (or not happened) for an extended period, it doesn't mean that the same will happen again. Things change, so the landscape in which you make your prediction may be vastly different from the one(s) you base your premise on.
I remember an excellent tweet by Kamil Galeev in the summer of 2022, who predicted that Russia would slowly grind to a halt, as sanctions would begin to stop spare parts reaching broken down trains and planes, the only viable means of transport across the vast Russian Federation, as roads were few and far between. The RF is so vast, that I often come across a tweet that references an oblast that I've still not heard of.
Today, what is Putin asking for? He is asking for his assets to be unfrozen, so that he can buy more Boeing planes. The average train speed across Russia is 5km/hour.
Perhaps we should reframe our thinking about the war, and move from a win/lose scenario, to one of vast arrays of equipment irretrievably broken down in the dust or mud, and injured or damaged (but armed) troops slowly making their way off the battlefields and back home to an unstable and febrile Russia.
Shropshire Seagull
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Just imagine Mexico invading Texas and the international peace deal makers say, let them keep what they've won / claimed / stolen.
How would that any different to asking Ukraine to let Russia keep Crimea?
How would that any different to asking Ukraine to let Russia keep Crimea?
Sirnormangall
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- Sep 21, 2017
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At least he’s admitted that Ukraine was invaded. Though he remains an utter pr4ttImpeccable logic here: if I want to steal your house, but you don't want me to. We can just divide the house between us. Simples.
"Vance said the question facing the US administration now was how it could help Russia and Ukraine "find middle ground" to end the conflict that has been raging for more than three years."
JD Vance: Russia's war in Ukraine not ending 'any time soon'
The US vice-president says it is still up to Russia and Ukraine to end the "brutal" conflict.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Earlier today, I commented that even after having been on this thread for over three years, I still frequently read tweets that reference a Russian oblast I hadn't heard of.
Here's another one. Udmurtia. It's out to the east of Kazan, which itself is a long way east of Moscow.
This post shows people crowding a train carriage for supplies of buckwheat.
To paraphrase Chuck Pfarrar, the US veteran, when you combine hunger with the military returning home, after the war, then you will have unrest.
Here's another one. Udmurtia. It's out to the east of Kazan, which itself is a long way east of Moscow.
This post shows people crowding a train carriage for supplies of buckwheat.
To paraphrase Chuck Pfarrar, the US veteran, when you combine hunger with the military returning home, after the war, then you will have unrest.
Yep, I'm sure Vance would think that's ok
I wonder if it's 'real ' or maybe just Putin propaganda to show the generosity of the state (not a good look either way)- I get more cynical and mistrustful by the day
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- Aug 24, 2020
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You're just an old romantic Raymondo.
Full disclosure: I am on record on here for saying that as victory in the war continues to elude Putin, some strange things may happen.
I didn't go into too much detail, in case someone tried to pin me down on it. Always keep your predictions vague, that's my motto.
Jake Broe's latest video covers many things, from Trump's u-turn, to the fact that Jake himself is likely on a Russian assassination list (the latter being concluded after a Ukrainian youtuber was the subject of an assassination attempt):