[Albion] Palace, Brighton, 8th, Europe, Man City - a potentially interesting/horrific/brilliant situation

[Mellotron]

So, do I have this right?

If Palace win the FA Cup, they get Europa League and it effectively knocks 8th out of European reckoning and kills our dream.

However, if Man City get a points deduction (@El Presidente - are we ACTUALLY expecting this prior to season end, and to be applied to this season?), that pushes everyone up a place and could even mean nabbing 7th and some form of Europe.

So....the ideal situation is that Man City absolutely VIOLATE Palace, but then suffer a massive points deduction - correct?

Have I missed any further potential variables? I also appreciate this all hinges on us finishing at least 8th anyway.

Hurts my head, all of this...

 

[AK74]

Que sera, sera

 

[Brian Fantana]

I say this without any knowledge, but I can imagine whatever verdict is given to Man City (whenever it comes) will go through reams and reams of appeals, so I can’t see any points deduction taking effect this season.

But you’re right, for all sorts of reasons we want City to beat Palace.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

We want City to beat Palace anyway, obviously, but yes, I think you're correct.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

So, do I have this right?

If Palace win the FA Cup, they get Europa League and it effectively knocks 8th out of European reckoning and kills our dream.

However, if Man City get a points deduction (@El Presidente - are we ACTUALLY expecting this prior to season end, and to be applied to this season?), that pushes everyone up a place and could even mean nabbing 7th and some form of Europe.

So....the ideal situation is that Man City absolutely VIOLATE Palace, but then suffer a massive points deduction - correct?

Have I missed any further potential variables? I also appreciate this all hinges on us finishing at least 8th anyway.

Hurts my head, all of this...

If City win the FA Cup either scenario would still play out with us qualifying for Conference League if we finished 8th (or 7th with a City points deduction).

 

[Greeko]

There is another scenario where we get conference league if we finish 8th and Palace win the cup.

it would require Chelsea to finish 7th and win the conference league.

 

[Birdie Boy]

Unfortunately arsenal winning the champs league will not get an extra place as they are already in top 5, I believe. But, what about Spurs or Utd winning the Europa League and not being in the top 8, what happens then?

 

[Bozza]

Unfortunately arsenal winning the champs league will not get an extra place as they are already in top 5, I believe. But, what about Spurs or Utd winning the Europa League and not being in the top 8, what happens then?

Nothing - they'll just win a bonus place.

No one else loses out elsewhere.

 

[nicko31]

So, do I have this right?

If Palace win the FA Cup, they get Europa League and it effectively knocks 8th out of European reckoning and kills our dream.

However, if Man City get a points deduction (@El Presidente - are we ACTUALLY expecting this prior to season end, and to be applied to this season?), that pushes everyone up a place and could even mean nabbing 7th and some form of Europe.

So....the ideal situation is that Man City absolutely VIOLATE Palace, but then suffer a massive points deduction - correct?

Have I missed any further potential variables? I also appreciate this all hinges on us finishing at least 8th anyway.

Hurts my head, all of this...

If it wasn't for us being in the running for Europe I'd like Palace to beat Citeh. Serial cheats that keep getting away with it and keep getting rewards, they are the likes of Chelsea are hollowing out the game.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Unfortunately arsenal winning the champs league will not get an extra place as they are already in top 5, I believe. But, what about Spurs or Utd winning the Europa League and not being in the top 8, what happens then?

Arsenal winning the Champions League and finishing 5th would change things. 6th would get a Champions League spot as well (plus push other qualification places down a place). This is because the extra place given for the co-efficient ranking has to go to a team that hasn’t already qualified for the Champions League.

But that isn’t going to happen.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Unfortunately arsenal winning the champs league will not get an extra place as they are already in top 5, I believe. But, what about Spurs or Utd winning the Europa League and not being in the top 8, what happens then?

The winner of the Europa get Champions League but make no odds to the top 5 getting Champions league as well. In other words, if Man Utd or Tottenham win the Europa we get 6 in the Champions league and it has no impact on Conference or Europa allocation.

 

[Bodian]

If it wasn't for us being in the running for Europe I'd like Palace to beat Citeh.

No. No. and No again.

 

[A1X]

Every good outcome involves City beating Palace. There is no world where Palace winning the cup is a good outcome.

Beyond that I don't care. I'd happily finish 10th if that happened.

 

[nicko31]

Every good outcome involves City beating Palace. There is no world where Palace winning the cup is a good outcome.

Beyond that I don't care. I'd happily finish 10th if that happened.

I'm sorry but that really is a bit Spursey

 

[Zeberdi]

The winner of the Europa get Champions League but make no odds to the top 5 getting Champions league as well. In other words, if Man Utd or Tottenham win the Europa we get 6 in the Champions league and it has no impact on Conference or Europa allocation.

If Newcastle finish in the top 5/6 doesn’t their Conference league place (by virtue of their EFL Cup win over Liverpool) bounce down a place?

I’m just wondering if there’s a crazy scenario where we want to loose next Saturday!

 

[Milano]

I'm sorry but that really is a bit Spursey

It really isn't. I'm already making a 'For Sale' sign for my house in case this happens, as my neighbour 4 doors down is Palace. They would be unbearable FOREVER, or until we won it, which is likey to be forever.

 

[dazzer6666]

If it wasn't for us being in the running for Europe I'd like Palace to beat Citeh. Serial cheats that keep getting away with it and keep getting rewards, they are the likes of Chelsea are hollowing out the game.

**** no. No. No. We’ll NEVER hear the last of it.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

I'm not entirely sure, but I just wanted to express my admiration as to h

Fine figure of a man.

 

[Titanic]

Race for Europe: How things stand, permutations and remaining fixtures

All you need to know as Premier League clubs try to secure UEFA Champions League, Europa League or Conference League football

www.premierleague.com

Clear as mud.

 

[A1X]

I'm sorry but that really is a bit Spursey

If not wanting Palace to win the cup under any circumstances makes me Spursey then f*** it, #AngeOUT