[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

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Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .






mr sheen

Well-known member
Jan 17, 2008
1,593
beat me to it
It seems odd they are now complaining the USA are putting tariffs on when they already have them in place?

Problem is, Trump is full of shit, so it is more than likely rubbish
Seen this explainer

How did the Trump White House calculate the tariffs?​

Many people have been asking how the Trump administration worked out its tariffs, while many countries have been arguing the numbers bear no relationship with reality.

New Zealand’s trade minister insisted his country did not apply a 20% tariff to US imports, as suggested by Washington, while Australia’s prime minister, Anthony Albanese, insisted the US tariffs had “no basis in logic” and that “a reciprocal tariff would be zero, not 10%.”

One journalist claims to have discovered the answer, and analysts are suggesting he is likely correct.

“They didn’t actually calculate tariff rates + non-tariff barriers, as they say they did. Instead, for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country’s exports to us,” financial writer James Surowiecki wrote in a post on X.

“So we have a $17.9 billion trade deficit with Indonesia. Its exports to us are $28 billion. $17.9/$28 = 64%, which Trump claims is the tariff rate Indonesia charges us.”

Then that number was divided in half as Trump said he was being “kind”. He also said the tariff calculations included “currency manipulation and trade barriers”.

An explanation of the calculations later posted on the office of the US trade representative appeared to confirm that the administration had used trade deficits divided by imports.

Mike O’Rourke, chief marketing strategist at Jones Trading, was quoted by CNN as saying:

While these new tariff measures have been framed as ‘reciprocal’ tariffs, it turns out the policy is actually one of surplus targeting ...
There does not appear to have been any tariffs used in the calculation of the rate. The Trump administration is specifically targeting nations with large trade surpluses with the United States relative to their exports to the United States.
 




SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
NSC Patron
Jan 25, 2025
887
Barriers to US trade include, "delays in EU approvals for genetically modified crops or bans on agricultural imports containing residues of certain types of pesticides".

Who wants some pesticide coated yummy goodness?
What doesn’t kill you, makes you….nah, it probably kills you. American life expectancy is years below Europe’s. That can’t all be “because guns”.
 






















BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
19,718
Trump has placed a 10% tariff on the Heard and McDonald Islands (Australian) which are uninhabited apart from penguins.
The male penguins sit on the egg, they are bloody woke and should be paying more.
 












Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
8,295
Is nothing sacrosanct …

 






Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
58,711
Back in Sussex


SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
NSC Patron
Jan 25, 2025
887
Seemingly they used AI to work the tariffs hence the cost of running a military base, showed up as a deficit, so Diego Garcia gets one, despite it only being troops there.
There are reports that the entire f***ing policy might be from ChatGPT - some users have apparently been able to recreate it.

Your daily reminder that artificial intelligence is not “intelligent” at all.
 


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