[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[GoldstoneVintage]

I'm convinced ...did you get the diagram?;

Yes, I added it to the op.

 

[Braggfan]

Here's what ChatGPT had to say:

Let’s do a comparative analysis based on key facial landmarks visible in the two photos: the left (suited) and the right (military uniform). While I can’t give a definitive identity match, I can assess how likely it is that these two are the same person based on their facial structure and proportions.

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1. Forehead and Hairline

Left: The forehead is high with a receding hairline, more defined at the temples.

Right: Similar recession pattern, but the hair appears slightly fuller or darker. Could be lighting or resolution, or possibly hair dye.


Comment: Very similar hairline pattern, but the texture and fullness differ slightly.


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2. Eyebrows

Left: Arched, prominent, and clearly defined.

Right: Appear flatter and lighter, less defined.


Comment: Eyebrow shapes differ—this is notable, though can be changed with grooming, lighting, or ageing.


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3. Eyes

Left: Almond-shaped, with a downward tilt on the outer edge.

Right: Slightly more rounded and open; spacing appears a little different.


Comment: The eye shape and lid heaviness are different enough to raise a flag—may suggest different individuals or post-surgery/aging effects.


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4. Nose

Left: Prominent bridge, narrow and angular tip.

Right: Appears flatter and broader at the tip.


Comment: The nose shape is one of the most distinctive differences—it would be hard to attribute this to just lighting.


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5. Mouth and Lips

Left: Thin lips, slightly downturned.

Right: Fuller lips, less downturn, more relaxed expression.


Comment: Mouth shape is significantly different—this is a strong point of contrast.


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6. Chin and Jawline

Left: Angular jaw, slightly clefted chin.

Right: Softer jawline, less prominent chin cleft.


Comment: Differences could be due to angle or weight fluctuation, but still notable.


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7. Ears

Left: Ears are tight to the head, well-shaped lobes.

Right: Right ear appears to stick out more and has a subtly different shape.


Comment: Ear shape and position are hard to change without surgery. This difference is significant.


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Conclusion

Based on facial landmarks, there are multiple moderate to strong differences, especially in the eyes, nose, mouth, and ears. These suggest it's plausible they could be different individuals. However, differences could also result from:

Facial expressions

Lighting/angle distortion

Cosmetic surgery or fillers

Age, health, or weight changes

Image resolution or compression artifacts


Would you like a diagram marking these points out visually on the images?

I don't doubt that Putin uses doubles, but those observations from ChatGPT aren't very convincing.

It says the nose and mouth shape are very distinctively different. I think they look almost the same. And it says the ears on the left have well defined lobes and the ears on the right stick out more, but you can only really see one ear in each picture, and they're not on the same side of the head.

It strikes me as ChatGPT inventing answers more than actual analysis.

Having said that Putin on the right does look ill and more gaunt than on the left, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a double

 

[fly high]

I don't doubt that Putin uses doubles, but those observations from ChatGPT aren't very convincing.

It says the nose and mouth shape are very distinctively different. I think they look almost the same. And it says the ears on the left have well defined lobes and the ears on the right stick out more, but you can only really see one ear in each picture, and they're not on the same side of the head.

It strikes me as ChatGPT inventing answers more than actual analysis.

Having said that Putin on the right does look ill and more gaunt than on the left, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a double

You would have thought he'd at least choose a healthy looking double.

 

[papachris]

I'm convinced ...did you get the diagram?;

It was the different eyebrows I noticed first

 

[raymondo]

You would have thought he'd at least choose a healthy looking double.

which one is the double

 

[SouthSaxon]

which one is the double

Neither. Or both.

 

[Triggaaar]

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Guardian left and BBC right

Just different lighting and white balance

 

[raymondo]

Russia expending more and more losses to gain less and less territory.

 

[raymondo]

 

[raymondo]

Here we go...off to tell Trump which sanctions to lift and by when:

 

[raymondo]

 

[SouthSaxon]

Here we go...off to tell Trump which sanctions to lift and by when:

I feel like we need an eye-roll emoji reaction for these reports.

The other day, whenever it was reported that US/Russia had discussed a “rare earth” deal, I was thinking it’d be no surprise to me if Trump was offered minerals in exchange for <drum roll> arms purchases.

If that was even mooted publicly, a lot of shit would hit a lot of fans, especially if the likes of Graham are starting to talk sanctions.

I do wonder what could be a thing Trump would be willing to do that would finally convince those cowards to impeach him. Would him trying to sell guns to Putin be enough do it?

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

I do wonder what could be a thing Trump would be willing to do that would finally convince those cowards to impeach him. Would him trying to sell guns to Putin be enough do it?

Would anything? It's a cult.

 

[SouthSaxon]

Would anything? It's a cult.

If you’re saying that the MAGA movement is a cult, I can agree that it has many of the characteristics.

The US government is not MAGA and is not a cult.

 

[raymondo]

I feel like we need an eye-roll emoji reaction for these reports.

The other day, whenever it was reported that US/Russia had discussed a “rare earth” deal, I was thinking it’d be no surprise to me if Trump was offered minerals in exchange for <drum roll> arms purchases.

If that was even mooted publicly, a lot of shit would hit a lot of fans, especially if the likes of Graham are starting to talk sanctions.

I do wonder what could be a thing Trump would be willing to do that would finally convince those cowards to impeach him. Would him trying to sell guns to Putin be enough do it?

I'm not even sure weapon sales would do it . At the moment he feels like an untouchable mafia boss - individuals are scared I believe.

 

[fly high]

But were US people listening, we were, I'm sure many around the free world were & many Democrats but what about the morons who voted for Trump. Have the Maga morons realised they will lose their Medicare, pensions, security payments & education for their kids will be far worse? Probably not.

 

[raymondo]

We need a cartoon!

Post from Jake Broe

Trump only cares about enriching himself.

youtube.com

 

[raymondo]

Sorry if fixtures. Some of this is probably on the money.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[Eric the meek]

Sorry if fixtures. Some of this is probably on the money.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Thanks for posting. There are several items in there that I wasn't aware of.

 

[dolphins]

Sorry - wrong thread