[Albion] Injuries 2024/25

[hans kraay fan club]

I think he should be scrutinised, but that your theory has fallen flat deserves calling out, but once again you can't admit being wrong.

And yes, in answer to your question, quite literally this forum is set up to notify you when people have replied to threads you've contributed to.

On this specific issue he is right to bring it up. The club are of the opinion that RDZ's training methods (long low-intensity sessions with lots of periods of standing around taking instruction) left the players ill-prepared for the intensity of PL matches, and significantly contributed to the injury crisis.

 

[Han Solo]

I think he should be scrutinised, but that your theory has fallen flat deserves calling out, but once again you can't admit being wrong.

And yes, in answer to your question, quite literally this forum is set up to notify you when people have replied to threads you've contributed to.

My theory that our widespread and persistent injury issues from ca March 2023 onwards was, and is, connected to the previous manager and his staff.

My theory is also, as I've said throughout the season, that thee change in style and medical staff can't really be measured at this point. If we're still swamped with injuries next season, it gets more interesting.

Changing from "tactical training" to gegenpressing training is obviously bound to have victims in the short term but in the long term it hopefully pays off.

I was wrong last season, thinking we trained too hard No problem admitting when wrong. Training too little or training too much has the same effect: players get injured and look out of energy. Happy that we've moved in a new direction.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

On this specific issue he is right to bring it up. The club are of the opinion that RDZ's training methods (long low-intensity sessions with lots of periods of standing around taking instruction) left the players ill-prepared for the intensity of PL matches, and significantly contributed to the injury crisis.

Yeah that's why it was an interesting article / debate and not as simple as just blaming a managers methods. We now have intense training sessions and even more injuries.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Yeah that's why it was an interesting article / debate and not as simple as just blaming a managers methods. We now have intense training sessions and even more injuries.

It might feel like we have more injuries and the data might even support it, but it’s worth remembering huge chunks of those cumulative injured days are:

- March still recovering from ACL
- Milner being a footballing OAP
- O’Riley being hacked by a thug
- Ferdi having a bizarre TOE injury

There are some players who won’t respond well to these training methods/playing style, though. Evan Ferguson seemingly a prime example. I’m sure there will be others as well.

 

[pigmanovich]

It might feel like we have more injuries and the data might even support it, but it’s worth remembering huge chunks of those cumulative injured days are:

- March still recovering from ACL
- Milner being a footballing OAP
- O’Reilly being hacked by a thug
- Ferdi having a bizarre TOE injury

There are some players who won’t respond well to these training methods/playing style, though. Evan Ferguson seemingly a prime example. I’m sure there will be others as well.

Igor, Hinsh, and Gruda have all missed large chunks of the season too

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Igor, Hinsh, and Gruda have all missed large chunks of the season too

And Wieffer to some extent too. Young players arriving from different leagues. Would be easy to assume they are more susceptible to injuries from an increase in intensity.

Hinshelwood I think can very likely be attributed to a lot of first team minutes for someone who is still a teenager.

 

[GT49er]

It might feel like we have more injuries and the data might even support it, but it’s worth remembering huge chunks of those cumulative injured days are:

- March still recovering from ACL
- Milner being a footballing OAP
- O’Reilly being hacked by a thug
- Ferdi having a bizarre TOE injury

There are some players who won’t respond well to these training methods/playing style, though. Evan Ferguson seemingly a prime example. I’m sure there will be others as well.

Gosh - is he still on the books? I thought he'd gone to Palarce and retired years ago! Still, all credit to you Gary - we haven't got many 64 year olds still on the books.

 

[El Turi]

Let’s hope this isn’t anything serious:

 

[Milano]

Oh f***ing hell. Japan have already qualified so fly him back TODAY FFS.
f***ing international breaks can f*** off.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

No sign of Veltman, Dunk or Lamptey in the small training session clip today.

O’Riley features though!

 

[brighton_tom]

Is March available for Saturday?

 

[Triggaaar]

I'm sure there was a chart shared on NSC that showed the correlation between style of play and number of injuries.

Unsurprisingly, pressing sides like ours get more, and countering sides, like Forest, get fewer.

Could we change to being a countering side please?

 

[Triggaaar]

I was wrong last season, thinking we trained too hard No problem admitting when wrong.

Of course no problem with being wrong. But it seems very odd to conclude that the players were training too hard if the reality was that they weren't training hard enough. What evidence did you have to conclude that they were training too hard?

 

[Triggaaar]

Is March available for Saturday?

Yes. Available for Sunday and Monday too, but then out for 11 months.

I'll get my coat.

 

[Han Solo]

Of course no problem with being wrong. But it seems very odd to conclude that the players were training too hard if the reality was that they weren't training hard enough. What evidence did you have to conclude that they were training too hard?

My internal math said De Zerbi intense press football + intense personality = intense training sessions that didn't help the injury situation. No evidence; just seemingly made sense.

 

[Triggaaar]

My internal math said De Zerbi intense press football + intense personality = intense training sessions that didn't help the injury situation. No evidence; just seemingly made sense.

Yeah it makes sense, but I think there's a lesson to be learned here somewhere.

 

[Bring back Bryan wade!!]

Any Mitoma updates?..

 

[Han Solo]

Yeah it makes sense, but I think there's a lesson to be learned here somewhere.

Probably -"assumptions may be wrong". But I knew that from before. People assume things all the time, wouldn't be very fun otherwise.

Part of the charm with football. You can discuss from many angles and sometimes be wrong without anyone taking any harm from it.

 

[Triggaaar]

Probably -"assumptions may be wrong". But I knew that from before. People assume things all the time, wouldn't be very fun otherwise.

Part of the charm with football. You can discuss from many angles and sometimes be wrong without anyone taking any harm from it.

Personally I prefer the discussions on tactics etc, but criticising a manager for injuries based on complete guesswork of training methods seems a bit silly to me

 

[Han Solo]

Personally I prefer the discussions on tactics etc, but criticising a manager for injuries based on complete guesswork of training methods seems a bit silly to me

Its no different.

We don't get to know anything about the tactical briefings either. We just assume things based on what we see and think.