[Albion] Club selling your seat, is this right?

[Talby]

A couple of PL clubs - and i think this is a good idea allow you - when you list your ticket - to donate the ££ back to the club charity rather than yourself if you tick a box.

Some clubs go further and have a scheme where if you list a ticket then its distributed via a charity to those who can't afford tickets etc.

These are good ideas that i hope the club are looking at.

They would be brilliant schemes for us to implement.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

But those reasons wont hit 75% of games in a season, so all good..

Isn't it 25% that they'd need to hit? So 4/5 games.

And as I said, I think issues around childcare and getting out of work in time for an evening could realistically come up several times for a year? Especially when you don't have any idea at the time of purchasing a ST when the games are going to end up being.

Are the club saying people who don't work 9-5 jobs based in Sussex or who are perhaps single parents shouldn't buy season tickets? Or that everyone should always err on the side of being conservative and assume they won't be able to make games when it's 50/50 or 60/40?

 

[Brian Fantana]

Isn't it 25% that they'd need to hit? So 4/5 games.

And as I said, I think issues around childcare and getting out of work in time for an evening could realistically come up several times for a year? Especially when you don't have any idea at the time of purchasing a ST when the games are going to end up being.

Are the club saying people who don't work 9-5 jobs based in Sussex or who are perhaps single parents shouldn't buy season tickets? Or that everyone should always err on the side of being conservative and assume they won't be able to make games when it's 50/50 or 60/40?

I think you're looking at this from too an extreme point of view. To avoid any potential sanctions from the club, you need to be attending or listing (whether or not the exchange opens or not) at least 75% of the games. You can list the ticket up to 24 hours hours in advance, but you're also free to take the ticket down from the exchange if it hasn't sold and your plans have changed to be able to attend. I really think that's about as flexible as it can be.

Of course the club are not trying to discourage any particular group from buying a ST but unfortunately they also can't cater for everyone's circumstances. If you have young children and childcare is an issue then sadly there's a fairly good chance that a ST isn't the best idea for that current stage of life. My attendance over the past few seasons has dropped off significantly because of the kids. I'd love to be able to go to every game but it's just not possible. It was my choice to have children though, so it is something that comes with the territory. I'm not trying to come across as being harsh here but ultimately the club have put something in here which seems really reasonable, but it won't and shouldn't IMO totally cater for everyone's individual circumstances.

 

[HeaviestTed]

But you can effectively do that by transferring your ticket to someone on your F&F list. Just put that other person on there. I’ve done that with my sons.

If they pay for Albion+ and you pay for the “share as much as you like”

 

[HeaviestTed]

So what happens for the Villa game when the exchange doesn’t open? Evening game, during term time…will all the no shows be getting an email?

I’ve listed my tickets so assume that’s fine, I’ve done what has been asked of me

 

[Brian Fantana]

I’ve listed my tickets so assume that’s fine, I’ve done what has been asked of me

Correct, it is fine. You just need to have taken the proactive step of listing it. Whether the exchange opens or the ticket sells doesn't matter.

 

[Dave the OAP]

My villa ticket is up for sale on the exchange

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

If they pay for Albion+ and you pay for the “share as much as you like”

Payment for Albion+ = opening up the opportunity to go and see more than one game for the price of one

And for the STH - first share is free and then you can either decide to pay £20 for unlimited shares or pay by game - with some of the games only costing £5 to share.

Seems very reasonable to me. I've used it with my sons.

But then again this is another one of those subjects that goes around and around and around on here ... ad nauseam.

 

[drew]

If I buy food but don’t use it and end up throwing it away, I don’t get a snotty email from Tesco saying that I cannot buy anymore.

In future years maybe a Green led council will send the email instead.

How long did it take you to come up with that poor analogy?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Especially when you don't have any idea at the time of purchasing a ST when the games are going to end up being.

This is the crux of it really, isn't it?

If we had a season where we were on Monday or Friday night football for three or four games, plus with mid week games, there'd be a good chance I'd miss most of them as I'm often away with work in the week. Sometimes I have a lot of notice, sometimes none.

Two examples. I missed Palace and listed but did not list until the Sunday. I was called late Saturday night and asked to do a meeting in Amsterdam on the Monday morning due to a colleague's illness. Soon worked out there were no commuter flights on the Monday morning at a price that would be approved so ended up on an EasyJet flight on Sunday evening that I had to be at Gatwick at 3pm to check in for. The weekend just gone I was also supposed to be travelling in the Americas but first the Heathrow fire thing happened, then the client wanted to move the meeting to virtual. Ended up canning everything about 10pm Friday night just after the England game. Had we had a game I would have listed and might not have got the ticket back.

And that's without games at home on Boxing Day when there's no transport, games on people's birthdays or Mother's Day or whatever.

I don't believe we have a single fan who can guarantee making every game. I hear even Jack is missing an away this season.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Are the club saying people who don't work 9-5 jobs based in Sussex or who are perhaps single parents shouldn't buy season tickets? Or that everyone should always err on the side of being conservative and assume they won't be able to make games when it's 50/50 or 60/40?

It's a fair question.

The decision to commit to paying 70 quid a month really isn't an easy one to make. I've missed 4 games this year and have got a lovely survey in my inbox so the club can understand "if they can assist me in getting to matches" (lol). Yeah sure lads you can make my wife's pregnancy a little easier and my newborn baby less sick. Cheers.

Then when you click on the survey "Your answers to this survey will be reviewed and considered against your season ticket renewal for 2025/26."

I really dislike the tone here. As if I'm the lucky one to be able to spend a small fortune each year to have the privilege of owning a season ticket.

 

[dsr-burnley]

I think you're looking at this from too an extreme point of view. To avoid any potential sanctions from the club, you need to be attending or listing (whether or not the exchange opens or not) at least 75% of the games. You can list the ticket up to 24 hours hours in advance, but you're also free to take the ticket down from the exchange if it hasn't sold and your plans have changed to be able to attend. I really think that's about as flexible as it can be.

Of course the club are not trying to discourage any particular group from buying a ST but unfortunately they also can't cater for everyone's circumstances. If you have young children and childcare is an issue then sadly there's a fairly good chance that a ST isn't the best idea for that current stage of life. My attendance over the past few seasons has dropped off significantly because of the kids. I'd love to be able to go to every game but it's just not possible. It was my choice to have children though, so it is something that comes with the territory. I'm not trying to come across as being harsh here but ultimately the club have put something in here which seems really reasonable, but it won't and shouldn't IMO totally cater for everyone's individual circumstances.

On the other hand, of course, there are massive disadvantages for future income if obstacles are put in the way of children attending. Lifelong attachments to the club are often forged by attending games as a child.

 

[Brian Fantana]

On the other hand, of course, there are massive disadvantages for future income if obstacles are put in the way of children attending. Lifelong attachments to the club are often forged by attending games as a child.

Oh absolutely, but I think that's an entirely different discussion. What we're talking about here is the situation where someone cannot attend in theory because of childcare reasons. There's no suggestion they've tried and failed to be able to get tickets for their child or children to come with them.

 

[Professor Plum]

People keep coming up with personal circumstances in an effort to undermine the proposal for dealing with the issue the club has with recurring empty seats. Ultimately, each individual has to weigh up whether their personal circumstances justify buying a ST. If someone has frequent childcare issues, sickness, job commitments, and so on that make it impossible to list your ST seat 24 hours in advance then maybe an ST isn’t the best idea. When I lived abroad and could see only a handful of games a season, I found that membership was ideal. I could ALWAYS get a ticket in advance for games I knew I’d be able to get to. If you often can’t get to games but usually have a good idea a day ahead of the game, the proposal shouldn’t be a problem. Whichever category you’re in, there’s surely a solution that’s right for you beyond just repeating that you should have the right to buy an ST and be able to just turn up or not depending on how you feel on the day, or whether circumstances allow. That’s not the spirit in which STs are sold, and for which we get a sizeable discount on match day prices.

 

[Brian Fantana]

People keep coming up with personal circumstances in an effort to undermine the proposal for dealing with the issue the club has with recurring empty seats. Ultimately, each individual has to weigh up whether their personal circumstances justify buying a ST. If someone has frequent childcare issues, sickness, job commitments, and so on that make it impossible to list your ST seat 24 hours in advance then maybe an ST isn’t the best idea. When I lived abroad and could see only a handful of games a season, I found that membership was ideal. I could ALWAYS get a ticket in advance for games I knew I’d be able to get to. If you often can’t get to games but usually have a good idea a day ahead of the game, the proposal shouldn’t be a problem. Whichever category you’re in, there’s surely a solution that’s right for you beyond just repeating that you should have the right to buy an ST and be able to just turn up or not depending on how you feel on the day, or whether circumstances allow. That’s not the spirit in which STs are sold, and for which we get a sizeable discount on match day prices.

Absolutely. Nail on the head.

 

[maresfield seagull]

My villa ticket is up for sale on the exchange

Snap

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

People keep coming up with personal circumstances in an effort to undermine the proposal for dealing with the issue the club has with recurring empty seats. Ultimately, each individual has to weigh up whether their personal circumstances justify buying a ST. If someone has frequent childcare issues, sickness, job commitments, and so on that make it impossible to list your ST seat 24 hours in advance then maybe an ST isn’t the best idea. When I lived abroad and could see only a handful of games a season, I found that membership was ideal. I could ALWAYS get a ticket in advance for games I knew I’d be able to get to. If you often can’t get to games but usually have a good idea a day ahead of the game, the proposal shouldn’t be a problem. Whichever category you’re in, there’s surely a solution that’s right for you beyond just repeating that you should have the right to buy an ST and be able to just turn up or not depending on how you feel on the day, or whether circumstances allow. That’s not the spirit in which STs are sold, and for which we get a sizeable discount on match day prices.

I think my annoyance comes rightly or wrongly from a sense of entitlement from being a season ticket holder for so long and the fact that my personal reasons are very new, unexpected and quite stressful.

I don't really want to write down my personal circumstances and whisk them away on a random MS Office form to the club. It's not on my terms.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

People keep coming up with personal circumstances in an effort to undermine the proposal for dealing with the issue the club has with recurring empty seats. Ultimately, each individual has to weigh up whether their personal circumstances justify buying a ST. If someone has frequent childcare issues, sickness, job commitments, and so on that make it impossible to list your ST seat 24 hours in advance then maybe an ST isn’t the best idea. When I lived abroad and could see only a handful of games a season, I found that membership was ideal. I could ALWAYS get a ticket in advance for games I knew I’d be able to get to. If you often can’t get to games but usually have a good idea a day ahead of the game, the proposal shouldn’t be a problem. Whichever category you’re in, there’s surely a solution that’s right for you beyond just repeating that you should have the right to buy an ST and be able to just turn up or not depending on how you feel on the day, or whether circumstances allow. That’s not the spirit in which STs are sold, and for which we get a sizeable discount on match day prices.

Very much this. The key word here is commitment, the sizeable discount is the trade-off you get for turning up week-in and week-out.

 

[drew]

I think my annoyance comes rightly or wrongly from a sense of entitlement from being a season ticket holder for so long and the fact that my personal reasons are very new, unexpected and quite stressful.

I don't really want to write down my personal circumstances and whisk them away on a random MS Office form to the club. It's not on my terms.

That's fine, that's your choice not to divulge any info but then you can't expect the club just to accept your word for it just the same as they don't trust everyone not to try and smuggle pyros into the ground etc etc. You argue it's not on your terms but your season ticket has been purchased on the terms and conditions of the club! You can't have it both ways.

 

[Brian Fantana]

That's fine, that's your choice not to divulge any info but then you can't expect the club just to accept your word for it just the same as they don't trust everyone not to try and smuggle pyros into the ground etc etc. You argue it's not on your terms but your season ticket has been purchased on the terms and conditions of the club! You can't have it both ways.

This.