[Albion] Billy Gilmour.

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Cowfold Seagull

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Probably not as many a month after this thread started. It's amazing how five wins on the trot alters perspective!

I'd still rather we'd kept WBG though. It's lucky that Ayari surprised us and turned out to be good though - if we'd had to rely on O'Riley, Wieffer and Gruda to be the defensive pivot alongside Baleba until Hinsh got fit the season might have not gone anything like as well.
A little harsh, whilst l might be tempted to agree re Matt O'Riley, we haven't seen nearly enough of Weiffer yet to see how he might fit in, and as for Gruda, l quite like what l have seen thus far.
 




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Probably not as many a month after this thread started. It's amazing how five wins on the trot alters perspective!

I'd still rather we'd kept WBG though. It's lucky that Ayari surprised us and turned out to be good though - if we'd had to rely on O'Riley, Wieffer and Gruda to be the defensive pivot alongside Baleba until Hinsh got fit the season might have not gone anything like as well.
Or put our faith in Milner being able to stay fit.

Things have worked out OK for us because of the improvement in Baleba, Ayari being decent and both being physically robust.

I was sorry to see Gilmour go because he was a solid, dependable, established Premier League midfielder. He didn’t 'need time to adjust' nor, like Groß, was he injury prone.

But the ship has sailed.
 


Withdean South Stand

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I think if he'd stuck around he'd have been a key player for us, but it didn't look that way in the summer. The chance to move to Napoli came up and he had to take it, no after timing here - but I do wonder if he regrets making the move, considering the problems we've had in the centre of midfield.
 








Jackthelad

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I’ve always thought Billy was hugely overrated but I often forget he’s still so young. For some reason I thought he was 27 or 28. He seems to have been around for ages.
 




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Yep. That one performance against a limited England team is doing a lot of heavy lifting for his reputation, if you ask me. He's not a terrible player by any means but given what we have now, I'm glad he's moved on.
Agree. He will find his level, and have a good career, but it will be somewhat below where he's been the past few seasons.
 




JBizzle

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Yep. That one performance against a limited England team is doing a lot of heavy lifting for his reputation, if you ask me. He's not a terrible player by any means but given what we have now, I'm glad he's moved on.
I see some comparisons between Gilmour and Ayari, and I think Ayari has a higher ceiling. Both very tidy, hard working footballers that do a lot of the unheralded work in midfield. Classic water-carriers, if you will. I just think that Ayari has more of a killer instinct going forward (if he can fix his rush-of-blood finishing)

I liked Gilmour, but I haven't missed him or his presence in the team.
 


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I see some comparisons between Gilmour and Ayari, and I think Ayari has a higher ceiling. Both very tidy, hard working footballers that do a lot of the unheralded work in midfield. Classic water-carriers, if you will. I just think that Ayari has more of a killer instinct going forward (if he can fix his rush-of-blood finishing)

I liked Gilmour, but I haven't missed him or his presence in the team.
They are both tidy, but Ayari physically is miles ahead of Gilmour. He's quicker and stronger.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Er, hello! Isn’t this what socializing is about? Why do you think I bother posting pictures of wanky craft beer and fancy restaurants otherwise?
 






Justice

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I’ve always thought Billy was hugely overrated but I often forget he’s still so young. For some reason I thought he was 27 or 28. He seems to have been around for ages.
MOTM in his last game for us.
Name one game Ayari has pulled the strings in midfield for a whole game? Not that you mentioned Ayari although people seem to be comparing the two players.
 






amexer

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I think tidy is a good description of Gilmour. All good work done round centre circle and not enough in areas that make a difference to games. Sums it up as likely to be first player taken of when you are one down.
 


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I think tidy is a good description of Gilmour. All good work done round centre circle and not enough in areas that make a difference to games. Sums it up as likely to be first player taken of when you are one down.
He points a lot as well. Looks good to the untrained eye, but little else.
 


B-right-on

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“The Bar is known for its competitive socialising experience”

Er, hello! Isn’t this what socializing is about? Why do you think I bother posting pictures of wanky craft beer and fancy restaurants otherwise?

On the Billy Gilmour thread HT?

Been at those wanky German craft beers too much me thinks :wink:
 


B-right-on

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They are both tidy, but Ayari physically is miles ahead of Gilmour. He's quicker and stronger.

I was going to add taller but according to Wiki, WBG is 170cm and Ayari is 172cm so yes he is taller, but only by a gnats arse's whisker. Surprised as Ayari doesnt strike me as much of a short-arse as WBG did.
 






Withdean South Stand

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Ayari has presence, Gilmour is an excellent footballer but needs to be in a very specific system.

The only downside to that criticism is that it was used to describe Xavi for about a decade.
 


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