[Help] Jury Service.

[Justice]

Thankfully I have never been chosen to do it, i would be gutted by being a grand down on the deal I would be crying if chosen for 2 weeks

Imagine what a sparks would be losing

 

[JOLovegrove]

I would absolutely love to do jury service. I know it seems like some people's version of hell, but I think I would love it.

I guess it's not something you can request for...?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I would absolutely love to do jury service. I know it seems like some people's version of hell, but I think I would love it.

I guess it's not something you can request for...?

Nope - people are randomly selected from the electors register. I've been called once and it was an interesting experience. Did one case of a stolen lawnmower (sent him down) but the second case I was selected for was halted so I was discharged after only a week. My employer at the time agreed to full pay for the two weeks so I took the second week off on full pay!

 

[BLOCK F]

I was being facetious and I came across as a bit of a nob. Apologies

No problems at all and no apologies required!

 

[BLOCK F]

I would absolutely love to do jury service. I know it seems like some people's version of hell, but I think I would love it.

I guess it's not something you can request for...?

I’ve never been called and never will be as I’m over the age limit.
Quite a relief as my bladder would cause problems. I wouldn’t want to have to put my hand up and say, ‘please M’lud, can I go for a wee?’

 

[Dinner with Gotsmanov]

I’ve never been called and never will be as I’m over the age limit.
Quite a relief as my bladder would cause problems. I wouldn’t want to have to put my hand up and say, ‘please M’lud, can I go for a wee?’

What is the age limit when you are deemed too old and doddery to make informed judgement on rum coves who are up before the beak?

Asking for a friend, obvs…

 

[drew]

What is the age limit when you are deemed too old and doddery to make informed judgement on rum coves who are up before the beak?

Asking for a friend, obvs…

When you're older than the judge!!!

 

[Mileoakman]

What is the age limit when you are deemed too old and doddery to make informed judgement on rum coves who are up before the beak?

Asking for a friend, obvs…

70 is the magic number.

I did Jury service once when I was about 45 and we acquitted a women of shoplifting. I think the Judge was so annoyed as it was obvious he didn't agree with us' that I'm sure our card was marked as I never got called again.

 

[Goldstone1976]

My employer at the time agreed to full pay for the two weeks so I took the second week off on full pay!

“You don’t have to pay staff while they’re doing jury service, but many employers do.”… “You may decide to top up your employee’s [loss of earnings] allowance so they don’t lose out on pay.”

Giving staff time off for jury service

What you can do if an employee is called up for jury service, and how to sort out their pay or help them claim an allowance

www.gov.uk

We typically have one employee out on Jury Service at any point in time. We’ve always topped up their Court Allowance to their full pay as thanks for their contribution to society, never thinking that they would take the piss if their Jury service was shortened for whatever reason. You’ve shown that some people will take the piss if given the opportunity.

I’ve just added the topic “How do we guard against our employees taking the piss if we give them extra payments above and beyond the statutory minimum?” to tomorrow’s management team agenda.

 

[BN9 BHA]

I would absolutely love to do jury service. I know it seems like some people's version of hell, but I think I would love it.

I guess it's not something you can request for...?

It’s my version of hell as being self employed I would lose money and maybe regular customers would go elsewhere. I can see the attraction for some people getting paid to be out of work (see post below yours)

 

[Westdene Seagull]

“You don’t have to pay staff while they’re doing jury service, but many employers do.”… “You may decide to top up your employee’s [loss of earnings] allowance so they don’t lose out on pay.”

Giving staff time off for jury service

What you can do if an employee is called up for jury service, and how to sort out their pay or help them claim an allowance

www.gov.uk

We typically have one employee out on Jury Service at any point in time. We’ve always topped up their Court Allowance to their full pay as thanks for their contribution to society, never thinking that they would take the piss if their Jury service was shortened for whatever reason. You’ve shown that some people will take the piss if given the opportunity.

I’ve just added the topic “How do we guard against our employees taking the piss if we give them extra payments above and beyond the statutory minimum?” to tomorrow’s management team agenda.

My manager knew and told me just to take the week.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

I've heard of some bring called more than once. Anyone know the stats on never being called?

I'm in the latter cohort and the Justice Ministry have only got 5 years left to realise the error of their ways ....

I've been on an electoral role since 18 and now I don't work or yet enjoy a state pension, a couple of weeks of jury service "income" and getting out of the house seems ideal.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

I've heard of some bring called more than once. Anyone know the stats on never being called?

I'm in the latter cohort and the Justice Ministry have only got 5 years left to realise the error of their ways ....

I've been on an electoral role since 18 and now I don't work or yet enjoy a state pension, a couple of weeks of jury service "income" and getting out of the house seems ideal.

You won't receive any 'income' if you're not working. I served for two weeks after being made redundant and deciding not to go back to work (pre pension) ... and all I could claim was my bus fare.

 

[BLOCK F]

What is the age limit when you are deemed too old and doddery to make informed judgement on rum coves who are up before the beak?

Asking for a friend, obvs…

I think it is 75, but if you are 70 or over and you get called, you can say no thanks and that will be accepted.

 

[Lurker]

I’ve been called up twice, 2 weeks each, and during that time sat on 3 cases.
In fact, to be strictly accurate it was 4 cases, but on one of them the Jury was chosen and sworn in, the very first ‘action’ was the defence calling for a legal point of order, so we all filed out of the courtroom, and after a period of time we got notified that the case was not proceeding and the jury was dismissed!
The other 3 cases went ahead and I have to say I found each experience intensely frustrating.
The British public are not suitable to sit in judgement and a new justice system needs ‘inventing’.
As an example, on one of the cases the defendant was as guilty as guilty could be, he was caught with a smoking gun and the only thing missing was a neatly typed confession note.
We retired to the jury room, took the obligatory vote straightaway to avoid time wasting … Guilty 11 votes, Not Guilty 1 vote.
Astonished silence pervaded the room, to be followed quickly by 11 x exclamations of WTF?
Hours of wasted arguments ensued, and eventually the rebel Juror confessed that he was a closet anarchist, he hated the Police, and never ever in his lifetime would he side with them.
He agreed the bloke was more guilty than a cat caught with cream in its whiskers, but we could hassle him all night and all day and he still won’t vote in favour of conviction.
Dickheads like that should NOT be allowed anywhere near a jury room, and that is why I would call for change.
And just for info, the other 2 cases I sat on had equally ridiculous outcomes due to the stupidity of the wonderful ‘British Public’, but I won’t go into detail now because this message has already become a chapter of ‘War and Peace’.

 

[dazzer6666]

I’ve been called up twice, 2 weeks each, and during that time sat on 3 cases.
In fact, to be strictly accurate it was 4 cases, but on one of them the Jury was chosen and sworn in, the very first ‘action’ was the defence calling for a legal point of order, so we all filed out of the courtroom, and after a period of time we got notified that the case was not proceeding and the jury was dismissed!
The other 3 cases went ahead and I have to say I found each experience intensely frustrating.
The British public are not suitable to sit in judgement and a new justice system needs ‘inventing’.
As an example, on one of the cases the defendant was as guilty as guilty could be, he was caught with a smoking gun and the only thing missing was a neatly typed confession note.
We retired to the jury room, took the obligatory vote straightaway to avoid time wasting … Guilty 11 votes, Not Guilty 1 vote.
Astonished silence pervaded the room, to be followed quickly by 11 x exclamations of WTF?
Hours of wasted arguments ensued, and eventually the rebel Juror confessed that he was a closet anarchist, he hated the Police, and never ever in his lifetime would he side with them.
He agreed the bloke was more guilty than a cat caught with cream in its whiskers, but we could hassle him all night and all day and he still won’t vote in favour of conviction.
Dickheads like that should NOT be allowed anywhere near a jury room, and that is why I would call for change.
And just for info, the other 2 cases I sat on had equally ridiculous outcomes due to the stupidity of the wonderful ‘British Public’, but I won’t go into detail now because this message has already become a chapter of ‘War and Peace’.

Both cases I sat in completely vindicated the system. First one was a bit traumatic (rape), it took several days of fascinating cross-examination to nail a verdict. The second case we all ‘assumed guilt’ from the off( the defendant was already in prison for something else he’d done since and looked/sounded like low-life scum), but the evidence was overwhelming in terms of proving him not guilty.

Pretty sure the dickhead you had should have been reported by you/other jurors for expressing those views - would likely have been removed from the jury.

 

[Papak]

I’ve been called up twice, 2 weeks each, and during that time sat on 3 cases.
In fact, to be strictly accurate it was 4 cases, but on one of them the Jury was chosen and sworn in, the very first ‘action’ was the defence calling for a legal point of order, so we all filed out of the courtroom, and after a period of time we got notified that the case was not proceeding and the jury was dismissed!
The other 3 cases went ahead and I have to say I found each experience intensely frustrating.
The British public are not suitable to sit in judgement and a new justice system needs ‘inventing’.
As an example, on one of the cases the defendant was as guilty as guilty could be, he was caught with a smoking gun and the only thing missing was a neatly typed confession note.
We retired to the jury room, took the obligatory vote straightaway to avoid time wasting … Guilty 11 votes, Not Guilty 1 vote.
Astonished silence pervaded the room, to be followed quickly by 11 x exclamations of WTF?
Hours of wasted arguments ensued, and eventually the rebel Juror confessed that he was a closet anarchist, he hated the Police, and never ever in his lifetime would he side with them.
He agreed the bloke was more guilty than a cat caught with cream in its whiskers, but we could hassle him all night and all day and he still won’t vote in favour of conviction.
Dickheads like that should NOT be allowed anywhere near a jury room, and that is why I would call for change.
And just for info, the other 2 cases I sat on had equally ridiculous outcomes due to the stupidity of the wonderful ‘British Public’, but I won’t go into detail now because this message has already become a chapter of ‘War and Peace’.

I thought the jury's return was no longer required to be 12 - 0 presumably to avoid this kind of stalemate?

 

[dazzer6666]

I thought the jury's return was no longer required to be 12 - 0 presumably to avoid this kind of stalemate?

Think it’s at the judge’s discretion

 

[Easy 10]

I was called up 4 or 5 years ago, and really enjoyed it. Fascinating seeing the process.

I sat on 3 cases (wouldn't have seen a thing otherwise).

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Nope - people are randomly selected from the electors register. I've been called once and it was an interesting experience. Did one case of a stolen lawnmower (sent him down) but the second case I was selected for was halted so I was discharged after only a week. My employer at the time agreed to full pay for the two weeks so I took the second week off on full pay!

Sounds like something you'd do