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jakarta

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Another vote for Pinot Grigio. Splendid everyday white wine.

Top NZ Sauvignon Blancs e.g Topuku and Greywacke are rare and welcome visitors...
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Just got back from dinner with some friends. A day late but we played our part. Nice, it went well with my Dover Sole and cockles.
 


Mattstrugnell

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We have a very old friend in Alsace, now over 80, and her and her father‘s favourite grape/wine was Pinot Gris. Her father was a wine producer. I would happily drink Pinot Gris or Riesling till the cows come home.
a few years ago we were in Canada - Tadoussac near Quebec - and went to a nice restaurant just down the road from where we were staying. We ordered some Riesling without taking much notice of where it was from. Ooooh, this is nice, we agreed, and thought it must be either French or New Zealand. It was Canadian. We had no idea of Canada being a wine-producing country!.
I was in Niagara in 2022 at the International Cool Climate Wine Symposium. Was surprised how the Niagara Peninsula region is such a fascinating grape growing region, so many styles, the most well known winery there probably Inniskillin, (icewine.) nova Scotia was interesting too, some great sparkling wine and interesting hybrid grape varieties to deal with cold winters. Alas , bloody hard to find these wines here
 


Mattstrugnell

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A member since 2009 and it’s only now that you disclose/I’ve clocked that you belong in the same cell as @McTavish @Machiavelli and me?

Yes, I’ve read about high RS wine production moving steadily North (one writer talked about Sussex as a possible location).

I’ve not tried a sparkling Donnhoff; thanks for the tip.
Sussex, not yet. One grower I know of tried it and grubbed it up. Maybe one day, after all they said that about Chardonnay in England and now it's our most widely grown variety.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Sussex, not yet. One grower I know of tried it and grubbed it up. Maybe one day, after all they said that about Chardonnay in England and now it's our most widely grown variety.
I find the south east England wine thing interesting. I was at college, and a good friend for many years, of a nephew of the gent who started Denby. I think he was one of the first , and at the time most laughed at him. Fast forward 30 plus years and it’s a different story.
 




Mattstrugnell

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I find the south east England wine thing interesting. I was at college, and a good friend for many years, of a nephew of the gent who started Denby. I think he was one of the first , and at the time most laughed at him. Fast forward 30 plus years and it’s a different story.
Yep, I think it just took a couple of brave people to move away from (mostly) German varieties and plant classic varieties for sparkling and it went very well. When I started in viticulture 25 years ago there was about 20 hectares of Chardonnay in England; it's just shy of 3000 ha now.
 


Goldstone1976

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Yep, I think it just took a couple of brave people to move away from (mostly) German varieties and plant classic varieties for sparkling and it went very well. When I started in viticulture 25 years ago there was about 20 hectares of Chardonnay in England; it's just shy of 3000 ha now.
And another light comes out from under the bushel!

Are you still in viticulture? In which region(s)?
 








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I am, right here in Sussex 😉
In another life, I would have liked to have been a grower.

As it is, I can only stand in slack-jawed astonishment at what many growers can achieve with grapes. I love wine for both its aesthetic pleasure, and because to get it into my glass involves so many things: farming (with a deep understanding of terroir), meteorology, timing (and some luck!), biochemistry, craft, and art. What other output requires all that?

Chapeau.
 


Mattstrugnell

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I am, right here in Sussex 😉

In another life, I would have liked to have been a grower.

As it is, I can only stand in slack-jawed astonishment at what many growers can achieve with grapes. I love wine for both its aesthetic pleasure, and because to get it into my glass involves so many things: farming (with a deep understanding of terroir), meteorology, timing (and some luck!), biochemistry, craft, and art. What other output requires all that?

Chapeau.
it's very rewarding and at times frustrating and difficult, like growing any crop really. I got into it by mistake (bringing this thread back to Riesling) I had a casual job on a Riesling vineyard in Clare Valley, fell in love with it, that was 26 years ago
 
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Machiavelli

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Yep, I think it just took a couple of brave people to move away from (mostly) German varieties and plant classic varieties for sparkling and it went very well. When I started in viticulture 25 years ago there was about 20 hectares of Chardonnay in England; it's just shy of 3000 ha now.
Excellent. If you can divulge where you are, I'll try to visit.
Have to say, I've had some really good English Chardonnays of late. Lots of people raving about Essex as a location. The best I've had is from Blackbook, think it was this one:

 


Mattstrugnell

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Excellent. If you can divulge where you are, I'll try to visit.
Have to say, I've had some really good English Chardonnays of late. Lots of people raving about Essex as a location. The best I've had is from Blackbook, think it was this one:

I'm at Ridgeview, Ditchling Common.
 






Machiavelli

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I'm at Ridgeview, Ditchling Common.
Strangely enough, I've been planning a trip there. The aim is to get there (from Fiveways) and back via a mix of train and walking, have some food and a fair bit of fizz and then head home.
Is there an optimal time to do this (ie, away from the crowds, peak-time, etc)?

As you're divulging, what's your role with Ridgeview?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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I wasn’t really sure what the response to this thread would be, but it’s been a good and very interesting read for a novice like me. Thank you.
 








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It is indeed. I have about 3 cases’ worth of various vintages and cuvées steadily improving in the cellar.
I’m not quite the collector you are but it’s been our go to Christmas fizz for a few years now and is a smashing drop for in the garden in summer.
 


Mattstrugnell

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Strangely enough, I've been planning a trip there. The aim is to get there (from Fiveways) and back via a mix of train and walking, have some food and a fair bit of fizz and then head home.
Is there an optimal time to do this (ie, away from the crowds, peak-time, etc)?

As you're divulging, what's your role with Ridgeview?
I've been the vineyard manager there for 22 years now. As for visiting, well anytime if the weather is good, restaurant, tours, self guided vineyard tour. (Although occasionally we have to close that if we're using machinery in the vineyard.) The restaurant in summer though is stunning. Worth checking on the website and booking though.
 


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