[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

'Garbage' to blame Ukraine for massive X outage, experts say

The claim has been made by the platform's owner Elon Musk, a vocal critic of Ukraine and its president.

www.bbc.co.uk

What a shame that Elon's tweets always seem to get through and reported somehow.

 

[Doug-ees-evil]

Just thinking about this:
Trump accuses his opponents of being corrupt, anti-democratic, nasty, and using fake news/lying. This is everything he is!
He's literally following the Nazi playbook.

Well he has had a copy of Mein Kampf in his bedside drawer (allegedly) for the last 40 years whereever he is in the world.
Hard to believe though.. mainly because surely, he's never read a book in his life?

 

[raymondo]

I don't have an account, but usually tweets do open for me. I just can't read the replies.

Replies are very often toxic to fair minded posts

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Well he has had a copy of Mein Kampf in his bedside drawer (allegedly) for the last 40 years whereever he is in the world.
Hard to believe though.. mainly because surely, he's never read a book in his life?

Nor written one according to the guy who (ahem) 'helped' write 'The Art of the Deal'.

Which reminds me, can anyone point to a single amazing accomplishment that this self styled gifted deal-maker has ever achieved?!

 

[Eric the meek]

I don't have an account, but usually tweets do open for me. I just can't read the replies.

In that case, you can probably disregard what I said then. Have you googled it?

 

[Scappa]

Well he has had a copy of Mein Kampf in his bedside drawer (allegedly) for the last 40 years whereever he is in the world.
Hard to believe though.. mainly because surely, he's never read a book in his life?

He consumes it whizzed up with half a dozen big-macs and a gallon of full fat cola as a mid morning snack

 

[raymondo]

What I think is odd is that it's not easier. It would be a lot easier for the US to back Ukraine and make it clear to Russia that they can't win, and get them to agree to a ceasefire. But how on earth is Trump going to convince Ukraine to surrender? His choice doesn't seem like the easy option, it just seems like the stupid/corrupt option.

Well yes... I agree with you, because that's how we rationalise and think.
But Trump doesn't think like that - he doesn't think right vs wrong - he thinks power, without restrictions - he thinks extortion and threats.
For HIM it's easier to follow his world view. I hope he discovers that the majority of America disagrees with him.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

In that case, you can probably disregard what I said then. Have you googled it?

No need. I can see the tweet (and read most of it) embedded on NSC. It just doesn't open when I click.

 

[raymondo]

Nor written one according to the guy who (ahem) 'helped' write 'The Art of the Deal'.

Which reminds me, can anyone point to a single amazing accomplishment that this self styled gifted deal-maker has ever achieved?!

He pissed off the European leaders so much, in just a week, that even Orban and Fico voted for the new European defense program - one helluvan achievement!

 

[Scappa]

Nor written one according to the guy who (ahem) 'helped' write 'The Art of the Deal'.

Which reminds me, can anyone point to a single amazing accomplishment that this self styled gifted deal-maker has ever achieved?!

He's one of a select few in history to have bankrupted multiple casinos

 

[raymondo]

Now Volker says...just do whatever the US says ()

'We're ready' — Ukraine heads into US peace talks with everything at stake

Kyiv officials will meet their Washington counterparts in Jeddah on March 11 for talks which will impact the future of diplomatic relations between the two countries and likely the future of the war in Ukraine. The Ukrainian side hopes the meeting would help mend ties with the White House and

kyivindependent.com

 

[pb21]

Whats the odds its the old 1-2

Russia does it, but tries to link it to Ukraine, so Naziboy can vent Ukraine is doing it?

 

[peterward]

Did he really say that though on Fox business?

Either way its predictable bullshit

Edit: the pr1ck actually did say it....wow (Ukraine area?)

 

[Scappa]

Lying piece of shit

 

[Triggaaar]

Well yes... I agree with you, because that's how we rationalise and think.
But Trump doesn't think like that - he doesn't think right vs wrong - he thinks power, without restrictions - he thinks extortion and threats.
For HIM it's easier to follow his world view. I hope he discovers that the majority of America disagrees with him.

I didn't bring right and wrong into it. I understand that he thinks about power and threats etc. His choice maybe because he thinks it'll work (ie, it's easier). Or it may be due to being compromised.

 

[dolphins]

Even if true, this could easily be the result of using a VPN...

 

[fly high]

Now Volker says...just do whatever the US says ()

'We're ready' — Ukraine heads into US peace talks with everything at stake

Kyiv officials will meet their Washington counterparts in Jeddah on March 11 for talks which will impact the future of diplomatic relations between the two countries and likely the future of the war in Ukraine. The Ukrainian side hopes the meeting would help mend ties with the White House and

kyivindependent.com

Sadly I don't have much hope for these talks, I really hope I'm wrong but all Trump wants is Ukraine to capitulate and comply with what he wants.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Now Volker says...just do whatever the US says ()

'We're ready' — Ukraine heads into US peace talks with everything at stake

Kyiv officials will meet their Washington counterparts in Jeddah on March 11 for talks which will impact the future of diplomatic relations between the two countries and likely the future of the war in Ukraine. The Ukrainian side hopes the meeting would help mend ties with the White House and

kyivindependent.com

It's all so nonsensical. The article questions how Trump will convince Putin to end Russia's aggression. But how tf will he do that when he won't even admit that Putin is the aggressor?!

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Here's my gloomy thought - someone please correct me.
If Zelenskiy doesn't give the US what they want, then the US may immediately withdraw support.
Europe may stand firm with their support, knowing that if Ukraine is supported for long enough then Russia will eventually collapse economically.

BUT the US is very likely to lash out - Trump won't walk away from it. He'll lift all sanctions on Russia. Then he'll pressure Europe to drop sanctions,and will use tarifs to that effect.

Is this doom scrolling too much?

a possibly but looking at the growing discontent within the GOP I suspect he’ll have real problems pushing this through.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Even if true, this could easily be the result of using a VPN...

Ding dong. You heard it here first.