[Albion] Kamari Doyle

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AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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The last youngster that made his way from Southampton to Albion didn't do too badly.

By the way, Doyle was on the bench for the Southampton U-18s when Albion thrashed them 7-1 in an U-18 Premier League South fixture on February 16 2021 (he made his debut for the Saints U-18s four days later) so he has obviously been casting envious glances our way ever since. Nine of the Albion squad that day are still with us.

#Bringingyouthefactsyouneedtoknow
 






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Though to be fair, after seeing Wolves hack that corner into the north stand, I'm prepared to say we're not quite at the bottom of the list

That was bizarre and almost had ‘Far East Betting Syndicate’ written all over it!
I enjoyed that. It reminded me of an incident, right at the end of my playing days.

We were playing away in a rough bit of Southampton, against a team of unfeasibly ANGRY lads. If they were not threatening our players, or the officials, they were arguing with each other.

We were hammering them, something like 8-0, and they were getting more and more wound up. They had a lad up top who clearly fancied himself a bit, but who had missed a couple of easy chances early in the game, and had got a bit of stick (and NOT good natured stick) from his team 'mates'.

Anyhow, at 8-0, with all of them knackered and fed up, they get a corner. This lad jogs over to the corner, and screams at the rest of his side, who have given up, to get forward. So the two exhausted and demoralised centre backs haul themselves up the pitch, to await his delivery - at which point he turns through 90 degrees, hammers the ball into the bushes, tells them all to get f***ed, and walks off the pitch.
 












jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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Some really wanky replies on this thread and the other couple about our links to other prospects.

When are people going to understand this is our transfer strategy. I’ve explained dozens of times how it works, it’s not rocket science.

1. Use a combination of statistical algorithms/extensive scouting network to identify young targets with huge potential

2. Use contacts developed over decade(s) to secure transfers at prices which offer value relative to the footballer and their potential, as measured by the above

3. Sign player, assess. Loan out for further development or integrate into first team squad

4. Adapt player into system, develop their skills and give them match experience at the highest possible level. Persevere with their steady development in training and matches.

5. Reap the rewards of their performances by selling for top dollar when a buying club reaches the player’s assessed value relative to his ability.

6. Reinvest portion of these proceeds into another batch of young players.


The ones that don’t work out have transfer losses offset by the winners, and furthermore by loan fees and wages paid by another club.

“Why do we need another attacking midfielder?” - because we can. We have a great system of loaning players out to develop their abilities, and if the buying price is right, we’ve largely recouped the amortised transfer fee by the end of the contract through loans and the increase in value of the player through match experience and development. Any transfer fee received is banked as profit.


Sorry if I seem arsey about this, it’s just really bloody obvious how we do business. But young, develop, sell high. As long as the young players we buy are good enough - and they are, thanks to point 1. it’s a fantastic strategy.
 








Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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Some really wanky replies on this thread and the other couple about our links to other prospects.

When are people going to understand this is our transfer strategy. I’ve explained dozens of times how it works, it’s not rocket science.

1. Use a combination of statistical algorithms/extensive scouting network to identify young targets with huge potential

2. Use contacts developed over decade(s) to secure transfers at prices which offer value relative to the footballer and their potential, as measured by the above

3. Sign player, assess. Loan out for further development or integrate into first team squad

4. Adapt player into system, develop their skills and give them match experience at the highest possible level. Persevere with their steady development in training and matches.

5. Reap the rewards of their performances by selling for top dollar when a buying club reaches the player’s assessed value relative to his ability.

6. Reinvest portion of these proceeds into another batch of young players.


The ones that don’t work out have transfer losses offset by the winners, and furthermore by loan fees and wages paid by another club.

“Why do we need another attacking midfielder?” - because we can. We have a great system of loaning players out to develop their abilities, and if the buying price is right, we’ve largely recouped the amortised transfer fee by the end of the contract through loans and the increase in value of the player through match experience and development. Any transfer fee received is banked as profit.


Sorry if I seem arsey about this, it’s just really bloody obvious how we do business. But young, develop, sell high. As long as the young players we buy are good enough - and they are, thanks to point 1. it’s a fantastic strategy.
That is one part of our transfer strategy, and clearly this one is one of those. But I think some people are wanting to see the other parts at play, the strategy that brought first team ready players like Cucurella and Estupinan to the team, to play in a position we were light in. Especially given De Zerbi's recent comments about players required.
Its that frustration I think that is coming out on these young prospect threads, as it triggers the "not what we need right now" thoughts.
 












DavidinSouthampton

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Didn't mean to be snarky. Apols. Its pretty much accepted now that if a talented young player becomes available in a window then we jump.
PS: re - other kids . Yes - we have a talented group but we don't have many 18 year olds on the books who have played in the PL and also represented England at u17, u18 and u19 level .
He might have language difficulties, though. Southampton’s a rough old place.
 


jcdenton08

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That is one part of our transfer strategy, and clearly this one is one of those. But I think some people are wanting to see the other parts at play, the strategy that brought first team ready players like Cucurella and Estupinan to the team, to play in a position we were light in. Especially given De Zerbi's recent comments about players required.
Its that frustration I think that is coming out on these young prospect threads, as it triggers the "not what we need right now" thoughts.
I understand that, but senior players are expensive in terms of wages, transfer fees, hard to find and not guaranteed to work out anyway. Look at Dahoud so far, looked a banker but hasn’t worked out yet.

I have no doubt the club are monitoring a great number of many experienced players, but as always we will only move when the time (and the price) is right. We tracked Veltman for years, and bided our time until he was available for £900k. We learnt our PL lessons the hard (and expensive) way with players like Jahanbaksh and Locadia.

The idea of squad building is to slowly and carefully add to it with the right players at the right time. But we simply cannot and won’t operate in a way many believe we should; I.e “we need a central midfielder - let’s go out and find one for X price”.

Our policy seems to be to track players we want, and get them regardless of our strength in that position. We didn’t need Fati but the right player came up and we acted.
 


Rodney Thomas

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May 2, 2012
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Ελλάδα
Some really wanky replies on this thread and the other couple about our links to other prospects.

When are people going to understand this is our transfer strategy. I’ve explained dozens of times how it works, it’s not rocket science.

1. Use a combination of statistical algorithms/extensive scouting network to identify young targets with huge potential

2. Use contacts developed over decade(s) to secure transfers at prices which offer value relative to the footballer and their potential, as measured by the above

3. Sign player, assess. Loan out for further development or integrate into first team squad

4. Adapt player into system, develop their skills and give them match experience at the highest possible level. Persevere with their steady development in training and matches.

5. Reap the rewards of their performances by selling for top dollar when a buying club reaches the player’s assessed value relative to his ability.

6. Reinvest portion of these proceeds into another batch of young players.


The ones that don’t work out have transfer losses offset by the winners, and furthermore by loan fees and wages paid by another club.

“Why do we need another attacking midfielder?” - because we can. We have a great system of loaning players out to develop their abilities, and if the buying price is right, we’ve largely recouped the amortised transfer fee by the end of the contract through loans and the increase in value of the player through match experience and development. Any transfer fee received is banked as profit.


Sorry if I seem arsey about this, it’s just really bloody obvious how we do business. But young, develop, sell high. As long as the young players we buy are good enough - and they are, thanks to point 1. it’s a fantastic strategy.
And that's a pretty wanky post as well!
 






JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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Seaford
That is one part of our transfer strategy, and clearly this one is one of those. But I think some people are wanting to see the other parts at play, the strategy that brought first team ready players like Cucurella and Estupinan to the team, to play in a position we were light in. Especially given De Zerbi's recent comments about players required.
Its that frustration I think that is coming out on these young prospect threads, as it triggers the "not what we need right now" thoughts.
Although true, the confusion is people don't get that it's not mutually exclusive. We aren't signing Doyle instead of a first teamer, so caning the signing because he's not PL-ready misses the point.
 
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