[Football] Adam Webster - our next England centre back

[GT49er]

Not you, but there’s a nsc thing of never being allowed to deem a player as not being up to the level required if we want to progress. Two obvious examples were Maty Ryan and Sanchez (before the Selhurst howler) … woe betide anyone who said they had failings and weren’t good enough. Then when our managers then swiftly deemed the same, 99% agreed with them.

Oh boy! Nail on head (though it will upset some, I have no doubt!)







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[Machiavelli]

I can only recall one JPVH error. To me he took on the Dunk role well.

There were loads. At least three in the first half including when he hit the ball straight at their forward in front of an open goal. If a certain other CB had done that, I can assure you we'd know about it.
Webster had a great game up until the red card. His passing was poor after that but there weren't exactly many passing options

 

[Machiavelli]

My match overview: we were by far the better team until Dahoud’s red, should’ve made and scored more. They were the worst PL visitors since say Wolves. After HT I thought Pedro and Mitoma upped our game, I loved that 24 minutes.

Lallana and Webster didn’t impress me, whilst I thought Igor, Gilmour, Adingra, Pedro, Mitoma, JPVH had excellent games.

Agree on this but check out Mitoma for their goal

 

[Washie]

My match overview: we were by far the better team until Dahoud’s red, should’ve made and scored more. They were the worst PL visitors since say Wolves. After HT I thought Pedro and Mitoma upped our game, I loved that 24 minutes.

Lallana and Webster didn’t impress me, whilst I thought Igor, Gilmour, Adingra, Pedro, Mitoma, JPVH had excellent games.

I actually thought Mitoma was poor today. Did a lot of running with the ball, but thats it. Off the ball he lost his man and just decided to jog back and cost us the goal. He also needs to learn when to release the ball as its either far too late or takes a shot at a poor angle.

 

[Weststander]

There were loads. At least three in the first half including when he hit the ball straight at their forward in front of an open goal. If a certain other CB had done that, I can assure you we'd know about it.
Webster had a great game up until the red card. His passing was poor after that but there weren't exactly many passing options

NSC is inherently biased viewpoints, we ALL do it implicitly. You can palpably feel pulses raised. So tomorrow I peruse what non Albion football writers have to say, player ratings.

Imho there is also a happy clappy you dare to criticise an Albion player. Ryan and Sanchez were perfect examples of this, any critic faced a pile on. The great taboo. Whilst (expert) managers quietly or not so quietly moved to replace them.

This isn’t a uniquely nsc or Albion thing, tonight I was reading narked rows about other club’s players on their fora.

 

[Weststander]

I actually thought Mitoma was poor today. Did a lot of running with the ball, but thats it. Off the ball he lost his man and just decided to jog back and cost us the goal. He also needs to learn when to release the ball as its either far too late or takes a shot at a poor angle.

Before the red, 3 men marked him, right in front of us in block D NS.

After the red he was often our RB 80 yards back, what a waste!

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

There were loads. At least three in the first half including when he hit the ball straight at their forward in front of an open goal. If a certain other CB had done that, I can assure you we'd know about it.
Webster had a great game up until the red card. His passing was poor after that but there weren't exactly many passing options

Spot on.

 

[BLOCK F]

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I should have said yes, even CPFC.
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[Littlemo]

I’d like to see him get a run of games before really judging his ability to play RDZ ball, I think most players need a bit of a run to get up to their best and he’s been in and out of the team and not playing much.

As for the OG, well Cameron Archer was standing right behind him so if Webster hadn’t knocked it in, it was a tap in for him anyway. Just a shame he didn’t manage to knock it away from goal or to Steele.

 

[Farehamseagull]

Interesting take on here, I didn’t think Webster was terrible and in fact the two worst errors defensively, that nearly led to goals were committed by JPvH in the first half.

Webster didn’t have a chance on the goal.

However, after the OG, he did seem to lose confidence……

Glad it’s not just me, well said. JPVH is beyond criticism on here these days despite making mistakes every game whereas Webster is piled on even when he’s not been that bad.

You’re right, he did lose confidence around the red card and goal but so did the whole team which is not surprising when your manager is losing his shit on the touchline when you could really do with him being calm and reorganising your shape. The way we collapsed immediately after the red was so poor.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Glad it’s not just me, well said. JPVH is beyond criticism on here these days despite making mistakes every game whereas Webster is piled on even when he’s not been that bad.

You’re right, he did lose confidence around the red card and goal but so did the whole team which is not surprising when your manager is losing his shit on the touchline when you could really do with him being calm and reorganising your shape. The way we collapsed immediately after the red was so poor.

I just think Van Hecke is performing at a level above Webster at the moment.

At Van Hecke's age and level of experience we can expect his to improve, he's among our most promising players.

Webby hasn't performed at the level needed so far this season. I've not lost hope for the fella, but he needs to get fit, stay fit and take his next chance in the first team not to be replaced

 

[AlbionBro]

My match overview: we were by far the better team until Dahoud’s red, should’ve made and scored more. They were the worst PL visitors since say Wolves. After HT I thought Pedro and Mitoma upped our game, I loved that 24 minutes.

Lallana and Webster didn’t impress me, whilst I thought Igor, Gilmour, Adingra, Pedro, Mitoma, JPVH had excellent games.

I do apologise, but I can not agree that six of our players were excellent, or we would have run out winners over Sheffield Utd, but unfortunately we didn't. Adingra was a handful for the goal alone and I would say he was excellent.
Let's hope we can sort out this creative issue up front, as this was the secret to our success before. I am rather hoping that Pedro will get stronger as the season goes on and players start to feed the near starved Ferguson.

 

[Weststander]

I do apologise, but I can not agree that six of our players were excellent, or we would have run out winners over Sheffield Utd, but unfortunately we didn't. Adingra was a handful for the goal alone and I would say he was excellent.
Let's hope we can sort out this creative issue up front, as this was the secret to our success before. I am rather hoping that Pedro will get stronger as the season goes on and players start to feed the near starved Ferguson.

Imho this is the classic situation where the final score tends to dictate feelings about player performances.

Dahoud’s red card changed everything, there’s an excellent Guardian write up on the game where they describe our supremacy and how the dismissal was the key moment. I felt Igor, Gilmour, Adingra, Pedro, Mitoma and JPVH were impressive. Unfortunately Dahoud’s moment of madness and the almost inevitable equaliser overshadows what went before.

 

[AlbionBro]

Imho this is the classic situation where the final score tends to dictate feelings about player performances.

Dahoud’s red card changed everything, there’s an excellent Guardian write up on the game where they describe our supremacy and how the dismissal was the key moment. I felt Igor, Gilmour, Adingra, Pedro, Mitoma and JPVH were impressive. Unfortunately Dahoud’s moment of madness and the almost inevitable equaliser overshadows what went before.

We can blame the red for distraction in particular as their goal was just a few minutes later. But if we had such an impressive 69 minutes at home we should have had a minimum of two goals in my opinion. I felt we just didn't finish them off in De Zerbi style, too much predictability I thought. Hopefully this will be a kick up the arse!

 

[Milano]

Just watched the OG again. Webster’s positioning is all wrong, he’s not goal side, he switched off for a second and let Archer get ahead of him, he then had to stretch and made a mess of it. If he doesn’t switch off then he clears that.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

When i saw this thread being bounced I thought it was to praise Webster, but NSC never ceases to surprise me

I thought Webster was fantastic on Sunday, stepping in to replace our best player and captain and doing it pretty flawlessly. I don't believe Sheffield United had a shot on target in the game? anyway Webster was excellent in all facets of the game, defending, attacking, and on nearly any other day he'd be waking off after a 3-0 win feeling proud of his performance. Unfortunately the attack and midfield had other ideas.

 

[AlbionBro]

Just watched the OG again. Webster’s positioning is all wrong, he’s not goal side, he switched off for a second and let Archer get ahead of him, he then had to stretch and made a mess of it. If he doesn’t switch off then he clears that.

Did you see Tiago Silvas own goal bottom corner stunner? Every defender scores them even the most experienced 39 year olds.

 

[London Irish]

When i saw this thread being bounced I thought it was to praise Webster, but NSC never ceases to surprise me

I thought Webster was fantastic on Sunday, stepping in to replace our best player and captain and doing it pretty flawlessly. I don't believe Sheffield United had a shot on target in the game? anyway Webster was excellent in all facets of the game, defending, attacking, and on nearly any other day he'd be waking off after a 3-0 win feeling proud of his performance. Unfortunately the attack and midfield had other ideas.

He was good for the vast majority of the game, then when SU put us under pressure late on he looked very vulnerable and shaky making error after error. Certainly don't blame him for the OG though, that was Adingra's fault for giving away the ball cheaply on edge of area.

I think Webster will be used by RDZ in rotation against the bottom 10 teams, and he'll probably do OK. It wouldn't surprise me if he's not here next season though

 

[Badger Boy]

Just watched the OG again. Webster’s positioning is all wrong, he’s not goal side, he switched off for a second and let Archer get ahead of him, he then had to stretch and made a mess of it. If he doesn’t switch off then he clears that.

That's a level of analysis above what a lot of people on this thread seem capable of. "Archer's right behind him, he has no choice!". That's the opinion of a blind man. The reality is that it was terrible positioning and reading of the game, he's a yard slow in his brain and that's why this is his final season with us. I'm not sure who will take him on but the team has moved on from his ability now. It's happened with Ryan, Duffy, Stephens, etc, etc, etc... if we want to keep progressing then we need to move on from Webster, who hasn't kept up.

 

[Springal]

That's a level of analysis above what a lot of people on this thread seem capable of. "Archer's right behind him, he has no choice!". That's the opinion of a blind man. The reality is that it was terrible positioning and reading of the game, he's a yard slow in his brain and that's why this is his final season with us. I'm not sure who will take him on but the team has moved on from his ability now. It's happened with Ryan, Duffy, Stephens, etc, etc, etc... if we want to keep progressing then we need to move on from Webster, who hasn't kept up.

You’re right of course. But plenty of other players further forward are culpable of not really busting a gut to step them attacking. Mitoma lost his man easily, Adingra dispossessed.