[Albion] Graham Potter

[GT49er]

Leeds interested apparently.

Could be a good move for both him and the club.

 

[Bodian]

How would he cope with the fans at Leeds?

 

[maltaseagull]

How would he cope with the fans at Leeds?

Aren't they the best fans in the world?

 

[willalbion]

Based on what exactly?

The guy's entire CV screams mediocre

It really doesn’t. He’s an excellent coach.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Could be a good move for both him and the club.

Hmmm l doubt Leeds fans will have the patience and will demand positive results from the start, and instant promotion back to the Premier League. I think Potter will achieve results, but his methods take time to work.

I can see the sence in him taking over at a Championship club though, alb eit one whose fanbase have a little less in terms of instant expectation.

Leicester maybe? they have also been linked recently. Maybe even Southampton whose pursuit of Russell Martin seems to have hit a temporary buffer over compensation. We all know how Potter loves a project.

 

[albionalex]

Could be a good move for both him and the club.

Why would it be a good move for Potter?

Stepping down from the Prem to Championship, a club that will have very high expectations, uprooting his family.

 

[Icy Gull]

Aren't they the best fans in the world?

I think you'll find that's Pompey

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Based on what exactly?

The guy's entire CV screams mediocre

Quickly, the facts:

Ostersunds - took over when they were in the 4th division of the Swedish league; three promotions in 5 years; won the Swedish cup & qualifed for European football.
Swansea - inherited a depleted & broken squad, made them play some of the best football in the country ( not my verdict but Dan Ashworth's, hence why we hired him)
Albion - transformed playing style, best ever finish (until this season) leaving us 4th in the Premier League.
Chelsea - didn't work for a number of reasons, most beyond his control but still qualified for Champions League quarter-finals.

In what world is that "mediocre"?

 

[The Fits]

The Ostersunds myth is still about then.
They cheated there way to that success. Their owner stole millions of pounds of money from the Swedish tax payer and invested it in the club. He was jailed for three years for it.

 

[albionalex]

Quickly, the facts:

Ostersunds - took over when they were in the 4th division of the Swedish league; three promotions in 5 years; won the Swedish cup & qualifed for European football.
Swansea - inherited a depleted & broken squad, made them play some of the best football in the country ( not my verdict but Dan Ashworth's, hence why we hired him)
Albion - transformed playing style, best ever finish (until this season) leaving us 4th in the Premier League.
Chelsea - didn't work for a number of reasons, most beyond his control but still qualified for Champions League quarter-finals.

In what world is that "mediocre"?

Leroy Fer - Dutch International
Oli McBurnie - £20m striker
Nathan Dyer - Premier League winner
Wayne Routledge - Premier League veteran
Dan James - £15m winger
Joe Rodon - £10m CB
Kyle Naughton - Premier League veteran

Pretty solid squad imo.

 

[Mr Smggles]

I fail to see an owners personal misdemeanours detracting from Potter’s success there.

Edit. Reply didn’t work. This is in reference to The Fitz’ post 389 above.

 

[Machiavelli]

Leroy Fer - Dutch International
Oli McBurnie - £20m striker
Nathan Dyer - Premier League winner
Wayne Routledge - Premier League veteran
Dan James - £15m winger
Joe Rodon - £10m CB
Kyle Naughton - Premier League veteran

Pretty solid squad imo.

Disagree fundamentally. Many of those he either blooded or revived, or made them what they were (precious few have done much since either). It's odd that Swans fans speak so highly of him, why do you think that is?

 

[Machiavelli]

Quickly, the facts:

Ostersunds - took over when they were in the 4th division of the Swedish league; three promotions in 5 years; won the Swedish cup & qualifed for European football.
Swansea - inherited a depleted & broken squad, made them play some of the best football in the country ( not my verdict but Dan Ashworth's, hence why we hired him)
Albion - transformed playing style, best ever finish (until this season) leaving us 4th in the Premier League.
Chelsea - didn't work for a number of reasons, most beyond his control but still qualified for Champions League quarter-finals.

In what world is that "mediocre"?

Facts will never get in the way of those with an agenda.

 

[Dibdab]

Quickly, the facts:

Ostersunds - took over when they were in the 4th division of the Swedish league; three promotions in 5 years; won the Swedish cup & qualifed for European football.
Swansea - inherited a depleted & broken squad, made them play some of the best football in the country ( not my verdict but Dan Ashworth's, hence why we hired him)
Albion - transformed playing style, best ever finish (until this season) leaving us 4th in the Premier League.
Chelsea - didn't work for a number of reasons, most beyond his control but still qualified for Champions League quarter-finals.

In what world is that "mediocre"?

It is actually pretty mediocre in terms of high level management. Won in Sweden, not sure that really counts for a lot. 10th in the Championship. Then finished 15th, 16th, and 9th in the Premier League in his full seasons. You really can't count us being in 4th after 6 games. Then took a billion pound squad to 12th place and got fired. Its hardly elite is it?

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Leroy Fer - Dutch International
Oli McBurnie - £20m striker
Nathan Dyer - Premier League winner
Wayne Routledge - Premier League veteran
Dan James - £15m winger
Joe Rodon - £10m CB
Kyle Naughton - Premier League veteran

Pretty solid squad imo.

Yes but the point is that many players were developed under him at Swansea. Dan James came out of the youth team & Rodon was given his chance by Potter.

 

[Nobby]

His managerial record is much better than Lampard's and there's still time for him to get a top job. Some people on here need to be careful what they wish for. Given time, Graham Potter will be successful again. I hope that's not at Palace

My managerial record is better than Lampard’s.

GP’s record seems to be;
Take a pub team with millions spent on it and get it up to a Micky Mouse league top division
Take a Championship (part Premier League) squad and fail to make the playoffs
Take a weak unestablished Premier League squad, flirt with relegation again, then improve it with some excellent and targeted investment (but not take it anywhere as far as his successor).
Take a billion pound Champions League winning squad - tinker around and take them to the bottom half of the League.
As a football club chairman, I would be a bit wary of that CV.
And if he does end up at Palace - well we will see how far he can take the perennial mid leaguers
My guess is the only way is down for them.
Fingers crossed

 

[albionalex]

Disagree fundamentally. Many of those he either blooded or revived, or made them what they were (precious few have done much since either). It's odd that Swans fans speak so highly of him, why do you think that is?

Facts will never get in the way of those with an agenda.

You are confusing facts with opinions.

FWIW, I didn't watch any of the Championship that season so can't comment on the strength of the division or how Swansea played that year. But from the outside looking in, that squad looks pretty solid and would expect it to finish mid table.

 

[albionalex]

Yes but the point is that many players were developed under him at Swansea. Dan James came out of the youth team & Rodon was given his chance by Potter.

For sure, you could say that Potter developed both James and Rodon.

Alternatively, you could say he was fortunate to have two really good youth team prospects available to him.

Maybe one is true and the other false, maybe both are true. Who knows.

 

[Machiavelli]

You are confusing facts with opinions.

FWIW, I didn't watch any of the Championship that season so can't comment on the strength of the division or how Swansea played that year. But from the outside looking in, that squad looks pretty solid and would expect it to finish mid table.

Nope. I can see how it could be read that way, but the facts/agenda post was not aimed at you.
The Swansea assessment was, and I'd invite you to consult Swansea fans to see what they thought of Potter. I also want to defend what he did for our club too. Those that can't see what he did do either have an agenda, or they're bitter about the manner of the departure.
And just to get this out of the way, comparisons between GP and RDZ doesn't make the former a bad manager if you agree with Pep on RDZ

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

The Ostersunds myth is still about then.
They cheated there way to that success. Their owner stole millions of pounds of money from the Swedish tax payer and invested it in the club. He was jailed for three years for it.

What has the owner, allegedly, stealing millions of pounds of tax payers money got to do with the price of fish?

It was Potter not the owner who took them from rock bottom to the top flight of Swedish football not the owner.