[Albion] Moises Caicedo - New contract signed until summer 2027 with 1 year extra option.

[Papa Lazarou]

No sign of Mac Allister or Ferguson, unless I missed them

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I understand your point, but if the fee is high enough, then you've already accepted that as the fee, and to keep control you could have certain stipulations, such as 'summer window only, and not on the last month'

Surely the valuation differs each time depending on the length of contract, what the club has achieved during the season etc

 

[Brian Fantana]

No sign of Mac Allister or Ferguson, unless I missed them

Perhaps with Mac being suspended for Saturday, he's been given a couple of days off?

 

[Berty23]

That bit of skill from mitoma to mug off dunk and one other was something else.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Surely a new deal on massive wages would only be offered without a release clause ? The purpose of the offer would be in part to protect/increase his resale value. Anyway, they won’t break the wage structure for one player so it would be a case of making him one of our highest earners rather than anything else.

Agree with the first bit, but I'm prepared to bet that every single time in the last 10 years that the wage structure has been 'broken' it's been for one player, and I would think it highly likely that the last time was a few months ago for AliMac. It's how stepped incremental improvement is supported and it's simply whether Caicedo justifies it

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Perhaps with Mac being suspended for Saturday, he's been given a couple of days off?

Yep. Forgot that. Good to see no fuss over Caicedo.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I understand your point, but if the fee is high enough, then you've already accepted that as the fee, and to keep control you could have certain stipulations, such as 'summer window only, and not on the last month'

Of course we can include stipulations but we still lose a lot of control. We may hit the summer window and realise we still don't want to sell and he's vital for next seasons assault on a European trophy. If Arsenal, Chelsea or anyone match the release clause we'd be powerless to stop him leaving if that's what he wanted. We'd have to make the release fee astronomical to at least cushion the blow of losing him.

 

[Triggaaar]

Surely the valuation differs each time depending on the length of contract, what the club has achieved during the season etc

Well obviously a short contract would significantly lower a player's value, but I don't know if there becomes a limit where a longer contract no longer adds to the value (eg, after 4 or 5 years). But the point is, he wouldn't sign a new contract that doesn't offer him something useful, and given that Arsenal and Chelsea just tried to sign him, I wouldn't expect him to make it even harder to leave in the summer.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Yep. Forgot that. Good to see no fuss over Caicedo.

Agreed. The best thing for all parties would be no mention of it at all - just slip back into normality.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Well obviously a short contract would significantly lower a player's value, but I don't know if there becomes a limit where a longer contract no longer adds to the value (eg, after 4 or 5 years). But the point is, he wouldn't sign a new contract that doesn't offer him something useful, and given that Arsenal and Chelsea just tried to sign him, I wouldn't expect him to make it even harder to leave in the summer.

That's not the same as a release clause.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Man in 'going to work' shocker.
What a load of old shite from SSN!

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Agreed. The best thing for all parties would be no mention of it at all - just slip back into normality.

As we definitely need him for Saturday.

 

[Triggaaar]

Of course we can include stipulations but we still lose a lot of control. We may hit the summer window and realise we still don't want to sell and he's vital for next seasons assault on a European trophy.

Yes, but if the club is saying that it won't stand in a player's way, does that not mean we have to accept a large offer anyway? This window it was more reasonable to say no, because we're mid season with no chance to replace him, and he hadn't even played a season for us. Let's say he doesn't sign a new contract, and we're offered £80m in the summer, and he asks to leave - do you think we'll say no?

 

[Berty23]

Yes, but if the club is saying that it won't stand in a player's way, does that not mean we have to accept a large offer anyway? This window it was more reasonable to say no, because we're mid season with no chance to replace him, and he hadn't even played a season for us. Let's say he doesn't sign a new contract, and we're offered £80m in the summer, and he asks to leave - do you think we'll say no?

I guess that depends on how Moder comes back. What is going on with Alexis and how well Facundo settles etc. hard to say right now.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Agreed. The best thing for all parties would be no mention of it at all - just slip back into normality.

You can bet your life that behind doors a bit of piss taking would of taken place!

Perfect ice breaker for his return.

 

[birthofanorange]

As we definitely need him for Saturday.

Yep, and I'm expecting him to play, not being given time off for bad behaviour. Besides, if he's as decent a guy as we're constantly told, he'll be putting in 150% and ripping Muff a new one, come Saturday.

 

[Seasider78]

My only hope is there is no reaction from the stands to him saturday and can see something coming out from the club in the coming days along the lines of acknowledges mistake, now focused on helping Brighton blah blah

Need to soften the landing for him and in many ways it would probably be easier for him to return in an away match

 

[Triggaaar]

Yep, and I'm expecting him to play, not being given time off for bad behaviour. Besides, if he's as decent a guy as we're constantly told, he'll be putting in 150% and ripping Muff a new one, come Saturday.

Anything less than 177% and I'm booing

 

[birthofanorange]

Anything less than 177% and I'm booing

177% + add-ons?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

My only hope is there is no reaction from the stands to him saturday and can see something coming out from the club in the coming days along the lines of acknowledges mistake, now focused on helping Brighton blah blah

Need to soften the landing for him and in many ways it would probably be easier for him to return in an away match

I was thinking that the Palace match is perfect for galvanising the fan base for the team against a common enemy. Literally could not care less what anyone has done before when it's that match. If they are wearing blue and white, previous sins will be forgiven.

But I suppose with Mac's suspension we need him for Saturday. I think RDZ will throw him straight back in.