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[Albion] Moises Caicedo - New contract signed until summer 2027 with 1 year extra option.



super-seagulls

Soup! Why didn’t I get any Soup?
Feb 1, 2011
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Probably working!
Thank you, I won £260 @ 11/2, only because you posted. I would never have thought of betting on a transfer.

[Less a later £40 stake lost, hedging so no loss if Arsenal had won].

Extra sweet … I deprived Gooners somewhere of cash, arrogantly thinking it was a sure bet on Friday evening.
Pleasure. I was on at 5/1 before it went higher to 11/2.

I’m glad we had a winner but do not advocate gambling.
 




super-seagulls

Soup! Why didn’t I get any Soup?
Feb 1, 2011
3,115
Probably working!
Yes. Thanks so much @super-seagulls

I’ve won around £260 too after taking a mix of odds until I passed the £50 maximum stake. I was not sensible enough to hedge the bet but this was probably because I placed the money out of anger and upset rather than cold financial acumen.

@Weststander Has SkyBet paid out yet? My app is down but the bet is still open on the browser. Like Arsenal fans, it seems it’s very tough for them to accept Moises is staying!!!
The bet was to sign before 3rd of Feb for some reason. I’ll imagine they will hold onto our winnings until the last possible moment!
 


Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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Oxton, Birkenhead
I don't think there's anything wrong with numerous bids in the right circumstances as Arsenal have demonstrated in the past:

Ben White: Bid £30m, told he's worth £50, bid £40m, told he's worth £50, bid £45m, told he's worth £50, bid £50m = Job done
Moises Caicedo: Bid £55m, told he's not for sale, bid £60m, told he's not for sale, bid £65m, told he's not for sale, Arsenal fail in bid = Annoys everyone

To be honest, I still think that Bloom and Barber decided that he was going nowhere the moment he and his agents fudged that ham-fisted Instagram post. I actually think there was far more likelihood of a deal being struck had they not pursued that stupid route. I mean thanking Bloom for accepting a bid... So, so amateurish.
I agree with that.
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
23,969
GOSBTS
The bet was to sign before 3rd of Feb for some reason. I’ll imagine they will hold onto our winnings until the last possible moment!
Covers International transfer windows id imagine
 


Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,423
Oxton, Birkenhead
According to reports that is why the deal eventually broke down. Arsenal had been ' at it ' for weeks. Shaktar said that they had been negotiating directly with the player. They got thoroughly pissed off with the whole situation and as Chelsea were prepared to do business through the proper channels, they got the man.
It is clear that Chelsea didnt follow up their initial bid for Caicedo, respecting the BHA position. Arsenal chose to ignore our wishes. Seems like a lot of their fanbase didn't get the message either...." why didn't we go to 80million ? " ( puzzled of Islington )
I didn’t know that about the other transfer. Seems Arsenal doing their best to piss off their source of new players. Doesn’t seem very bright.
 






ConfusedGloryHunter

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Jul 6, 2011
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I agree with that.
Not for me, I think the plan was always to keep him. We don't sell the first 11 until they are near the end of their contracts or we have a replacement lined up with enough time to get them in. All these antics with social media are an annoying sideshow (although I think Barber and Naylor seemed to be enjoying themselves by the end of it).
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
Oct 4, 2003
11,149
I don't think there's anything wrong with numerous bids in the right circumstances as Arsenal have demonstrated in the past:

Ben White: Bid £30m, told he's worth £50, bid £40m, told he's worth £50, bid £45m, told he's worth £50, bid £50m = Job done
Moises Caicedo: Bid £55m, told he's not for sale, bid £60m, told he's not for sale, bid £65m, told he's not for sale, Arsenal fail in bid = Annoys everyone

To be honest, I still think that Bloom and Barber decided that he was going nowhere the moment he and his agents fudged that ham-fisted Instagram post. I actually think there was far more likelihood of a deal being struck had they not pursued that stupid route. I mean thanking Bloom for accepting a bid... So, so amateurish.
We never told Arsenal Ben White was worth £50 million. Even Arsenal have said at the time we don't give anything away, if we aren't accepting a bid it' a flat out no, no clues, Tony doesn't reveal his hand.

I don't think the social media stuff changed anything, Moises was never for sale, all it did was bring the story more attention and increase our profile as a club not to be taken lightly in the transfer market.
 






Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Not for me, I think the plan was always to keep him. We don't sell the first 11 until they are near the end of their contracts or we have a replacement lined up with enough time to get them in. All these antics with social media are an annoying sideshow (although I think Barber and Naylor seemed to be enjoying themselves by the end of it).
Particularly in a January.

Caicedo was never leaving, many here said just that, people talking about "what price?" missed the key point. The club had contract law on their side and were immovable on this occasion.
 


Zeberdi

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smillie's garden

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Aug 11, 2003
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I have a hunch and a hope that Moises is going to be fine for the rest of the season. He is not going to harm his reputation with sulking and uncommitted play, and he's not going to want to let his teammates down, particularly his S. American muchachos: Pervis will keep him straight! Can't wait for an upcoming Ronald vlog where Moises scores with a low drive from 20yds.
 








Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
Oct 4, 2003
11,149
Will be interesting to see if he signs a new deal on massive wages with a release clause included.
I hope he signs a nice new deal without a release clause.

Bloom and Barber have said they aren't fans as it limits what the maximum money we can potentially get for a player is. As we are so open about not standing in a players way and letting them go for the right fee and at the right time, we have no need to include a release clause and we'd lose that control instantly if we did.
 






Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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Oxton, Birkenhead
Will be interesting to see if he signs a new deal on massive wages with a release clause included.
Surely a new deal on massive wages would only be offered without a release clause ? The purpose of the offer would be in part to protect/increase his resale value. Anyway, they won’t break the wage structure for one player so it would be a case of making him one of our highest earners rather than anything else.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I hope he signs a nice new deal without a release clause.

Bloom and Barber have said they aren't fans as it limits what the maximum money we can potentially get for a player is. As we are so open about not standing in a players way and letting them go for the right fee and at the right time, we have no need to include a release clause and we'd lose that control instantly if we did.
I understand your point, but if the fee is high enough, then you've already accepted that as the fee, and to keep control you could have certain stipulations, such as 'summer window only, and not on the last month'
 




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