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[Albion] Moises Caicedo - New contract signed until summer 2027 with 1 year extra option.









LamieRobertson

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Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I'd offer him a new contract, same length but put him as top earner with others and a release clause for a champions league team of £100m from June...
Gives him a massive income boost for 4 months+ whilst making it clear we will sell.
German clubs often seem to take this approach.
Do German clubs really adjust a contract like that, with benefits to the player and nothing at all for the club? Seems a bit weird. We could offer him more money and add a release clause for him, but there'd have to be something for us, like an extra year.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Nov 12, 2006
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One reason for his interest in leaving now rather than waiting until the summer may well be that both Arsenal and Chelsea are showing interest and signing for either of them would mean he could live in London. If he waits for the summer both clubs may well have signed other players and he is left with the Manchester clubs or Liverpool, and who wants to live in either of those dumps? Just a thought.
More likely that Arsenal stand a decent chance of winning a league title and Moises could be part of that, at just 21.
 












S'hampton Seagull

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Oct 12, 2003
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Southampton
Imagine if the club were bold enough to hold someone to their contract when they have a strop and refuse to train because they want a move. What are they going to do, refuse to play for the next two years? Nobody would touch them, it would ruin their career. It would cost us a lot of money in the short term, but I genuinely think it would make us money in the long term by sending out a message.
Totally agree with this
 


Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
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Brighton
I think it's a clever move from the club. It takes him away from the rest of the squad - as Bozza said, it's almost certainly a reaction to his agent telling them he wouldn't be in anyway - and it gives his agent no leverage. What's he going to say - Moises won't play for the rest of the season? No chance. Wait it out and if Arsenal offer £100m then fine.
 


amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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It didnt do Aston Villa any harm holding on for £100m for Grealish
I just hope bubble burst with PL. However with the big clubs it is not just about wealthy owners. Because of attendances and global brand they all have incomes of £450/500m
Very sad clubs like us can't retain players but will never happen unless our income was considerably higher.
 




Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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Living In a Box
Whilst I understand resentment about this we are no different in how we actually get these players, I suspect there is even more anger from their fans when the realisation dawns they sold the player for only £6m yet we sell them for £60m plus.

As stated in this thread this is a massive food chain so unless we are repeatedly in the Champions League, win the league regularly and also cup competitions we really have to live with this.

Or alternatively stay as a lower league club.
 


raymondo

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One reason for his interest in leaving now rather than waiting until the summer may well be that both Arsenal and Chelsea are showing interest and signing for either of them would mean he could live in London. If he waits for the summer both clubs may well have signed other players and he is left with the Manchester clubs or Liverpool, and who wants to live in either of those dumps? Just a thought.
And NONE of those places have a beach 🤷‍♂️
 


Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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And this is exactly why players put in transfer requests or play up. It allows the owners to sell the player without getting grief from the supporters. If Trossard was a hardworking model pro and then sold for 27m, we'd all be peed off with TB and the rest of the club for sanctioning that - way too cheap, why are we letting a great player leave now? But because we're flinging the blame at Trossard many are saying we got a good deal. It's clever from the player and his agents.
I wait to see whether he is staying at home on club instruction. If not, he can f*** off. And tbh if we get a massive wedge on a player that is yet to complete an entire season anywhere, then cool.
 








Neville's Breakfast

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It really doesn’t become irrelevant. Would suggest it’s naïve to think otherwise. We simply aren’t going to put ourselves in a position - if our price isn’t reached - of having a player a disruptive and unhappy player sat on our books not playing and losing value.

The only thing which is in our favour is that this feels very agent driven and we might be able to re-integrate him as the window closes so soon.
We will have to agree to disagree. I am very much of the opinion that we always operate in a particular way in the transfer market which is why we sell at our asking price. Leeds fans advanced your theory over Ben White and it didn’t get their club very far. Man City also tried it on so we sold Cucurellla to Chelsea at that higher price. The exceptions are players nearing the ends of their contracts.
 






Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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Mid Sussex
Again, I don't have a problem with RDZ generally speaking but I'm also not one who'd buy scented candles smelling like his farts. The man has flaws like everyone else and his big mouth is not doing the club any favours, imo.
Says the bloke who has been sniffing Potter’s turds for the last 6 years.
The club will have a strategy so I very much doubt that he would go off script when it comes to transfers.
 


Weststander

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Again, I don't have a problem with RDZ generally speaking but I'm also not one who'd buy scented candles smelling like his farts. The man has flaws like everyone else and his big mouth is not doing the club any favours, imo.
Genuinely (not part of the Potter vs RDZ debate) I like CEO’s, owners and managers who from time to time openly fight the club’s corner. The ‘football secrets’ thing blocks those who love the club most, the supporters, knowing any of the unsavoury events behind the scenes.

Trossard obviously wanted to chase medals now and went about it in an unprofessional way. I trust Lallana. He could’ve got his move, he wasn’t integral to our form 11, his agent and he didn’t read the situation correctly. We know for a fact that TB doesn’t operate like Levy or Parish.
 
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