[Football] Leandro Trossard **Sold To Arsenal 20/01/2023**

[Neville's Breakfast]

I’ve just watched the RDZ interview. What a refreshing change for a manager in any business to be so straight talking. Trossard will know exactly where he stands. RDZ is a very impressive guy.

 

[brighton_tom]

As others have said, unfortunately now we're a club that hovers around the upper mid table zone the occasions on which the top clubs try to take our players & turn their heads will increase. Or occasionally players will be tempted to think they're ready to step up to the next level and try to engineer a move. Comes with the territory. I guess its sort of a compliment. But we're well placed to continue seamlessly if Trossard does go.

Best thing Leo & RDZ can do now is have a chat monday, clear the air, where no doubt Leo will say he is ready to move on & the club can say 'yes we understand, get your head down, work hard, and we'll see what happens, but it will only be if a fair offer comes in'.

 

[oldboyroy]

I get the feeling Trossard,having had such a great start to the season and under Potter was virtually 1st name on team sheet irrespective of some of his (appearing not interested) performances. As many have said he's brilliant at times whereas missing in other matches. Since the change of manager he has found it difficult to accept the demands of Roberto and even after his 3 goal Liverpool performance Roberto said he can improve more. Since world Cup he has been off his game and rightly so been dropped. Its as if Trossard thinks he should be playing irrespective of form because he can produce moments of magic to win games. Maybe the( I'm too good to be dropped) scenario? I am probably way off the mark thoughnot forgetting that a few headlines and rumours about bigger clubs wanting him too!

 

[Eric the meek]

I don’t think he is as good as he thinks he is. Certainly an important part of our squad but for every Liverpool away there are quite a few games where he is completely anonymous. Top 6 clubs may disagree and if so they will as per usual have to pay Tony’s price or he can warm the bench as an over age player in the under 23s if he likes.

You've nailed it, as did @Hamilton in an earlier comment. On his day, he can be sensational. It's just that his days are not that frequent.

It is his inconsistency that devalues his overall contribution. I think back to the days of 'non-scoring Solly'. Even though he didn't score, he still contributed, by tracking back and occupying his opposing counterpart. When Trossard is not on song, he goes missing. Compare that statement to Veltman, who never, ever goes missing.

I know which players I prefer.

 

[Glawstergull]

Also the agent is set to normally get a nice cut of any transfer fee. therefore any player showing signs of wanting a change would be encouraged by said agent.

 

[Eric the meek]

Trossard is one of the best players that’s ever played for this club. Unfortunately he’s a representation of what we now stand for, a feeder club for the big boys once a player has outgrown us.

Alternatively, perhaps the club have outgrown Trossard.

 

[Kosh]

You are repling to and adding to post of false equivalence. Of course Bloom doesn't sit back and just rubber stamp other people's decisions. Do you really think he doesn't use the Starlizard data base to look, himself, and players? That doesn't mean he does everything. And anyone else making decision is doing so by proxy, on his behalf.

As for the post to which you reply, and the extent to which Tony is in charge, and the 'how come he lost his manager and team if he knows what he's doing?' (I paraphrase @Clive Walker ), that's the false equivalence. If a freak ice block drops off a DC10 wing and smashed through the roof of my house this doesn't prove that I am not the mastermind behind the success of my household.

I have no idea what you’re talking about Harry, but then again Donnie Darko was never really my scene.

 

[philgull25]

Alternatively, perhaps the club have outgrown Trossard.

Or, the manager has just managed to publicly piss off and fall out with our top scorer and one of our biggest assets. Who was probably going to be sold this month or the summer anyway.

I understand the inclination to back the manager, particular after Trossard’s petty statement, but we don’t really know what’s happened and what’s been said/agreed behind closed doors.

 

[Springal]

Alternatively, perhaps the club have outgrown Trossard.

He’s our top scorer !

The big factor is wages, we are still pretty low payers so it is easy to lure away our star players.

But I’m sure this will slowly increase if we can consistently finish top half

 

[Change at Barnham]

Trossard is one of the best players that’s ever played for this club. Unfortunately he’s a representation of what we now stand for, a feeder club for the big boys once a player has outgrown us.

Yes he's one of the best players that's played for us. We have always been a feeder club for the big boys and always will be, just like Ajax.
However, he's not a representation of what we've become. It's what our plan is and is our best chance of remaining a competitive top ten side in the best league in the world.
This episode of club discipline is what we stand for, with behaviour that we refuse to tolerate, and it's absolutely brilliant.

p.s. Top marks from @Hamilton for sharing the YouTube clip from above of Robert deNiro in The Untouchables.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

 

[Eric the meek]

He’s our top scorer !

The big factor is wages, we are still pretty low payers so it is easy to lure away our star players.

But I’m sure this will slowly increase if we can consistently finish top half

He's also currently our top dickhead.

Hopefully, with our goals coming from all over the pitch these days, the concept of top scorer and star player will mean less and less in future.

 

[Stat Brother]

I do wonder if RdZ hasn't quite engineered the situation, but has rather exploited it for his own gain.
Sure it's a bit old skool, you'd have thought probably too old skool, but it does rather nod to:-

- last teacher caring and thoughtful.
- new teacher wants to make his mark and crucially distance himself from before.
- kerfuffle insues.
- opportunity arises.
- hammer crushes nut.
- rest of the class on bestest behaviour.


Ghengis over Gandhi.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Every club is a feeder club until you're at the top!

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Or, the manager has just managed to publicly piss off and fall out with our top scorer and one of our biggest assets. Who was probably going to be sold this month or the summer anyway.

I understand the inclination to back the manager, particular after Trossard’s petty statement, but we don’t really know what’s happened and what’s been said/agreed behind closed doors.

I think people are backing the club against player power. It’s an important principle in building a strong squad mentality. RDZ is simply the one articulating it. The alternative is there for all to see at Chelsea. Well done the club.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I do wonder if RdZ hasn't quite engineered the situation, but has rather exploited it for his own gain.
Sure it's a bit old skool, you'd have thought probably too old skool, but it does rather nod to:-

- last teacher caring and thoughtful.
- new teacher wants to make his mark and crucially distance himself from before.
- kerfuffle insues.
- opportunity arises.
- hammer crushes nut.
- rest of the class on bestest behaviour.


Ghengis over Gandhi.

Yep, a tried and tested method that isn’t in the training manual

 

[dazzer6666]

He’s our top scorer !

The big factor is wages, we are still pretty low payers so it is easy to lure away our star players.

But I’m sure this will slowly increase if we can consistently finish top half

………but completely out of form since the WC and totally deserved to be dropped. If he can’t deal with that by getting his head straight and knuckling down the there’s no place for him.

 

[Springal]

………but completely out of form since the WC and totally deserved to be dropped. If he can’t deal with that by getting his head straight and knuckling down the there’s no place for him.

Which is fair, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say we’ve outgrown him necessarily

 

[severnside gull]

I have a friend who is a director at a Championship club and is well connected to some of the big EPL sides through the FA. He said before this blew up that Trossard was being actively touted around months ago by his agent and suggests the player was determined to leave in January.

And so it came to pass………..

 

[Lifelong Supporter]

I'm not so sure about Spurs. Is he going to oust Son, Richarlison, Kane, Kulusevski? He's miles behind them. With the guy they bought off Fulham he'll be comfortably 4th or 5 choice. Also a slightly mardy 28 doesn't really seem like their profile. You'd imagine given the way this is how he's chosen to exit that unforgiving taskmasters like Conte or Simeone would be the last sort of managers who'd want him.

I can see Newcastle throwing money at him. But if he doesn't like the weather in Brighton....

Yes I agree that all makes sense. I looked at what odds the bookies were giving and for some reason they were shorter on Spurs than anybody else. Mr Z is generally passionate in his player support so yes Trossard has much to do if he wants some sort of happy ending to this.