[Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

[pb21]

Why was the ref checking for offside on the screen, didn't think that was how it works.

Regardless, I've gone from being on the VAR fence to fully off it, needs to go. That offside VAR farce can't happen again.

 

[DJ NOBO]

No infringement would have been given if the ball had not ended up in the net. The offside made no odds. VAR is ruining football.

There was an offside which potentially affected the ball reaching MacAllister.
****ing anoying, yes. Took too long, yes. VAR travesty of justice, no.

 

[giveusfalmerplease]

the only thing i would say is that being ruled out seemed to inspire us even more.had it gone in and stayed i wonder if we would have continued to press and press.

 

[Weststander]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62783142

Huge number of controversial / incorrect decisions again yesterday. Offside inconsistencies too over the last two game sets. Everton's goal not flagged but (correctly) given offside by VAR, Coutinho flagged when onside, rather than allowed to continue and play whistled dead so VAR could not correct it and, in our game, Undav not flagged when 10 yards off.

We still have controversy. We still have incorrect decisions. We still have managers blaming refs and sent to the stands. Nothing has been fixed yet fans can't celebrate a goal properly and are getting home from games later and later. Five minutes to award and take a penalty at Forest.

Keep goal line tech but as for VAR, get rid.

Torn between both viewpoints, I haven’t replied until now.

I think it should be completely eliminated, except for red card incidents (either way including reversing), with simply the VAR officials deciding.

None of this back to the ref to decide, it doesn’t undermine them, rugby refs and cricket umpires don’t feel immense sadness.

The stoppages are killing the game. After the euphoria of the Gross Leeds winner, my elation was deflated for a silly wait whilst some bloke 200 miles away stared at screens.

 

[Superphil]

"It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

If it was offside then the var muppet should have simply said offside. What is the referee doing reviewing it? It’s a failure if the system and the morons operating it.

 

[nickjhs]

if it’s not obvious within 30 seconds of scrutiny and a panel of 3 aren’t unanimous then the original decision stands.

Was thinking along the same lines after Ali Mac was disallowed. How can it take 5 minutes to determine a clear and obvious error.

 

[Gazwag]

There was an offside which potentially affected the ball reaching MacAllister.
****ing anoying, yes. Took too long, yes. VAR travesty of justice, no.

Never ever seen a ref decide an offside decision, its proven its inaccurate, ruins football for fans and open to corruption

 

[1066familyman]

For me, it simply is VAR.

It needs to go. Sucking all the joy out of the game. This is football, not cricket or tennis.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Why was the ref checking for offside on the screen, didn't think that was how it works.

Regardless, I've gone from being on the VAR fence to fully off it, needs to go. That offside VAR farce can't happen again.

He wasn’t checking for offside per se, he clearly was, but whether Mwepu’s offside position, and failed overhead kick, had interfered with the clearance….according to the post match analysis. Very subjective.

 

[Eeyore]

He wasn’t checking for offside per se, he clearly was, but whether Mwepu’s offside position, and failed overhead kick, had an impact on the clearance….according to the post match analysis. Very subjective.

I've got no problem with the decision itself, if we apply the exact interpretation.

But it's the general application of VAR. This decision wasn't that controversial, but there needs to be more leverage. Marginal offside needs to go in the attackers favour. It always used to before VAR and we got used to it as we accepted it couldn't be perfect.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I've got no problem with the decision itself, if we apply the exact interpretation.

But it's the general application of VAR. This decision wasn't that controversial, but there needs to be more leverage. Marginal offside needs to go in the attackers favour. It always used to before VAR and we got used to it as we accepted it couldn't be perfect.

Fair enough. But it wasn’t a marginal offside in this case; the goal wasn’t disallowed for this. I do think the benefit should have been given to Brighton and the goal given though.

 

[BN41Albion]

Fair enough. But it wasn’t a marginal offside in this case; the goal wasn’t disallowed for this. I do think the benefit should have been given to Brighton and the goal given though.

What was it given for then? Been at the game

 

[jonny.rainbow]

At any game at any level of football without VAR, that goal is a goal and no-one claims otherwise. The Leicester players and coaching staff did not appeal it. VAR does not work. Get rid.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What was it given for then? Been at the game

The BBC and NBC post match analysis both say the ref disallowed the goal not for the offside position per se, but Mwepu’s off side position interfering with the subsequent clearance. I disagree with this, Mwepu didn’t touch the ball and in my view didn’t interfere with the clearance.

 

[sir_gullahad]

A decision, right or wrong, that takes 4+ minutes is not a useful part of the game.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

A decision, right or wrong, that takes 4+ minutes is not a useful part of the game.

This.

 

[timbha]

Given our convincing win it’s probably a good time to take a dispassionate view on VAR.

It is spoiling the game due to the time take to reach a decision, fans not understanding the decision, great goals being erased from history. Bin it.

 

[DJ NOBO]

Never ever seen a ref decide an offside decision, its proven its inaccurate, ruins football for fans and open to corruption

Ref was deciding if mwepu had impacted play not whether he was offside

 

[BN41Albion]

The BBC and NBC post match analysis both say the ref disallowed the goal not for the offside position per se, but Mwepu’s off side position interfering with the subsequent clearance. I disagree with this, Mwepu didn’t touch the ball and in my view didn’t interfere with the clearance.

OK, so still total bollocks then

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

OK, so still total bollocks then

Absolutely. I’d actually say even more bollocks than if it was a straight offside; at least that’s objective.