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[Brighton] Levi Colwill *Signed on Season-Long Loan 05/08/2022*



Springal

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That’s not a terrible deal. Given we’ve lost a player after 12 months anyway. Maybe a bit light if Cucu & White are the benchmark , but gives us a drop in replacement without hassle or to much risk
 




Jimmy Grimble

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I do wonder how likely it is that Chelsea enforce their buy-back options.

I think we’ll find out by the end of next season if Livramento or Guehi (not 100% sure if his is a buy-back) have outstanding seasons.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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Regardless of left or right sided, this must spell the end for two of Duffy, Clarke and Van Hecke.

Must admit, probably in a minority, but defensively I haven’t been that impressed with Van Hecke, over commits and positionally not the best. Clarke on the other hand has looked okay, slow though. With Burnley going, probably the only time to play Duffy is against Mitrovic.
 


axscott

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Buyback is basically confirmed, we just don't know the numbers behind the deal.

Really hoping its not near what's been rumoured, those are some very unlike Brighton numbers
 




Jim in the West

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This may not be how things pan out, but if the buyback is £45m, and in a few years Chelsea trigger it, the cash profit on the total Cucurella + Colwill deal is £62.5m:

Cucurella cost: £15m
Colwill cost: £20m
TOTAL: £35m
Cucurella proceeds: £52.5m
Colwill proceeds: £45m
TOTAL: £97.5m

Net of the two = £62.5m

[The accounting profit will be greater, as the cost of the two players will have been reduced by amortisation]
 








stss30

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A bit of a dissapointing deal if the buy back is that low, although we clearly need a left sided defender now Cucu has left the building. Plus, it seems like there's quite fierce competition for left backs in the market presently so we'll definately take it, and if he's a success it's another tidy profit I suppose.

I see it's rumoured that the buy back wouldn't become actionable until 2025 so we'd be guaranteed at least 2 full seasons. Still think these sort of deals stink a bit though.
 
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gazingdown

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Is there a time limit on buy backs? Ie only after two years or whatever
It can/will be whatever the two parties agree to. There’s no “law” as to what conditions/add-ons/buyback/etc. are put in the deal.

I would suspect (if this does happen and there is a buyback - not convinced that we should tho) that it will be a 4yr contract, buy back expires after 1 or 2 yrs.
 




axscott

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This guarantees that Colwill comes in to directly replace Cucurella
 


Bold Seagull

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It does. Can't see the club agreeing such a deal.

The trouble with this side of the deal, Colwill may well be holding the cards. He is under contract to Chelsea, they can't actually force him to sign for Brighton. Loan / Buy back maybe all down to Colwill's demands rather than either club because Chelsea are keen to get the Cucu deal done, and Brighton are keen to have a replacement in straight away, but Colwill might not be so keen to move.
 


Greg Bobkin

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The trouble with this side of the deal, Colwill may well be holding the cards. He is under contract to Chelsea, they can't actually force him to sign for Brighton. Loan / Buy back maybe all down to Colwill's demands rather than either club because Chelsea are keen to get the Cucu deal done, and Brighton are keen to have a replacement in straight away, but Colwill might not be so keen to move.

Ah well, no Colwill deal, no Cucu sale :lolol: The club have already shown they aren't to be messed with or taken for a ride (apparently), so probably best Chelsea don't bother playing games.
 




DJ NOBO

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The trouble with this side of the deal, Colwill may well be holding the cards. He is under contract to Chelsea, they can't actually force him to sign for Brighton. Loan / Buy back maybe all down to Colwill's demands rather than either club because Chelsea are keen to get the Cucu deal done, and Brighton are keen to have a replacement in straight away, but Colwill might not be so keen to move.

He’ll be sprinting down the M23 as we speak.
 


Jim in the West

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The trouble with this side of the deal, Colwill may well be holding the cards. He is under contract to Chelsea, they can't actually force him to sign for Brighton. Loan / Buy back maybe all down to Colwill's demands rather than either club because Chelsea are keen to get the Cucu deal done, and Brighton are keen to have a replacement in straight away, but Colwill might not be so keen to move.

I think we hold quite a few of the cards - Chelsea want Cucurella, but we'll only do the deal if we get Colwill for a decent fee. No doubt Chelsea will be pretty keen to facilitate that part of the deal....
 


Bold Seagull

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Ah well, no Colwill deal, no Cucu sale :lolol: The club have already shown they aren't to be messed with or taken for a ride (apparently), so probably best Chelsea don't bother playing games.

Joking aside, it's an interesting dynamic though; one club upset that their player handed in a transfer request, the other club trying to lever their contracted player out of their club possibly against their wishes...
 






Nobby Cybergoat

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Buy back options as a concept should absolutely be banned.

They are anti-competitive and don't sufficiently take into account the wishes of the player
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Regardless of left or right sided, this must spell the end for two of Duffy, Clarke and Van Hecke.

Must admit, probably in a minority, but defensively I haven’t been that impressed with Van Hecke, over commits and positionally not the best. Clarke on the other hand has looked okay, slow though. With Burnley going, probably the only time to play Duffy is against Mitrovic.

So yes ok, we're buying Colwill, who's about 4 years younger than Clarke and 2 younger than Van Hecke. He's got loads less league experience. And we're totally sure he's going to leap frog over them in the pecking order?

They would surely be within their rights to feel, that they've done their dues going through the academy process, out on loans, achieved recognition, done the hard yards, they should probably be getting a go ahead of some Chelsea lad who's not properly contracted to us anyway.

And I know **** happens in football, but what about the next youngster we want to send up to some northern ****hole with the promise of first team consideration the following season. They would also be within their rights not to agree to do those hard yards
 


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