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[Politics] Official Match Day Thread - The Debate, 7PM



Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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It does not work though, if we spend more it just generates more untaxable profits for offshore based companies. There is no " Trickle Down " if these companies make more money, just the exec's and the shareholder's who profit ...and Rishi has promised to get rid of EU " red tape " to set us " free" ...ie, to scrap working conditions legislation in order to make more money.. .that does not trickle down ..and so it continues...Johnson was trying to puff a high skilled/high wage economy but the moment the RMT ask for a decent pay rise they are told to tighten their belts !

Christ alive man.

I was mocking the very idea!

Next you'll tell me that Swift's modest proposal was a genuine, er, proposal. :facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

For future reference, I am a centrist labour member, fond of dull leaders and scornful of iconoclasts and gobshites.

And.....exhale.

:lolol: :wink:
 




vegster

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Christ alive man.

I was mocking the very idea!

Next you'll tell me that Swift's modest proposal was a genuine, er, proposal. :facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

For future reference, I am a centrist labour member, fond of dull leaders and scornful of iconoclasts and gobshites.

And.....exhale.

[emoji38]ol: :wink:
Sorry Harry, misunderstood your post due to current climate plus three cans of Scrumpy Jack in 40 mins on an empty stomach.
 


The Clamp

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West is BEST
Even if I was eligible to vote I wouldn’t waste the shoe leather on any of those votes of no confidence in waiting.

The fact that any of them want to lead that dumpster fire of a party should rule them out instantly.
 


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So Tommy boy has gone, leaving us just with NO white men.

So the HUGE LIES that the LEFT have been peddling, regarding the Tories being SEXIST and RASICT has evaporated as quickly as teaspoon of water on a hot slab.

So perhaps the few that we're still peddling this on nsc, might have to agree the Tories are not what they thought???
 


WATFORD zero

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So Tommy boy has gone, leaving us just with NO white men.

So the HUGE LIES that the LEFT have been peddling, regarding the Tories being SEXIST and RASICT has evaporated as quickly as teaspoon of water on a hot slab.

So perhaps the few that we're still peddling this on nsc, might have to agree the Tories are not what they thought???

You really should give up on the PPF account, this one is SO MUCH better :bowdown:

:lolol::lolol::lolol:
 






Uh_huh_him

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Sunak seems to be making himself more embarrassingly unelectable by the second.
Can see Mordaunt winning this, as she has fewest links in the public mind, to the failed government,
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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So Tommy boy has gone, leaving us just with NO white men.

So the HUGE LIES that the LEFT have been peddling, regarding the Tories being SEXIST and RASICT has evaporated as quickly as teaspoon of water on a hot slab.

So perhaps the few that we're still peddling this on nsc, might have to agree the Tories are not what they thought???

You make a very fair point, Mouldy. I have been very impressed with Johnson for appointing such a diverse team in the main jobs, for the diversity of the current leadership candidates, and for the lack of any snide attacks in the contest from tories about the race or gender of the candidates.

It doesn't change the fact that Johnson was a massive wrong-un, sacked by his own MPs in the end (which is a plus point for them), though.

And it doesn't change the fact that the tories are in a mess, with the candidate backed by Nad and the minister for the 18th century as the strongest Brexiteer being a "remainer and former lib dem" (according to one tory member, backing Sunak, on the radio tonight).

The tories are in a right old mess. Operating a racist and sexist parliamentary party is NOT one of their sins, though. For that you can be rightly proud :thumbsup:
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Sunak seems to be making himself more embarrassingly unelectable by the second.
Can see Mordaunt winning this, as she has fewest links in the public mind, to the failed government,

The public don't have a vote, though.

Try to channel a 70 year old, from Surrey, who still has a soft spot for cheeky-chappie Johnson. Who will get your vote....

"That woman who looks like a man dressed up to look and sound like Margaret....I don't like her.....

"That Indian chappy has a nice smile. He reminds me of my dentist.....

"The Irish woman.....quite attractive....but you can't trust them.....

Sunak it is, then.
 


Machiavelli

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So Tommy boy has gone, leaving us just with NO white men.

So the HUGE LIES that the LEFT have been peddling, regarding the Tories being SEXIST and RASICT has evaporated as quickly as teaspoon of water on a hot slab.

So perhaps the few that we're still peddling this on nsc, might have to agree the Tories are not what they thought???

Like HWT says, there has been a sea change in the diversity of the Cabinet under your glorious leader.
I'm more concerned about the broader culture and policy framework that each Cabinet adopts and implements. You and I will probably depart on this, as I think they've been extremely poor on this front, and all too keen to play culture wars as a distraction from other factors, with certain minority ethnic figures particularly keen to peddle such an agenda.
 


Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
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So Tommy boy has gone, leaving us just with NO white men.

So the HUGE LIES that the LEFT have been peddling, regarding the Tories being SEXIST and RASICT has evaporated as quickly as teaspoon of water on a hot slab.

So perhaps the few that we're still peddling this on nsc, might have to agree the Tories are not what they thought???

The Johnson Party is EXACTLY what we all thought.... the tories are a tad better but generally support the well off, no matter what ethnic background they are from.... as we thought.
 




stss30

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Apr 24, 2008
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Liz Truss now favourite in the bookies eyes, would be a quality result for Labour!
 


Cheshire Cat

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Haven't they finished yet.....

FFS :tantrum::bla::yawn:
 








stss30

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And the worst result for the country, do we deserve this?

Still, she could hand Starmer 3 terms with how unforgettably bad she’d be.

It's all very depressing but to be honest, the electorate does deserve this, particularly in Nothern areas of the UK - unfathomable how Boris was elected with a landslide majority
 


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You make a very fair point, Mouldy. I have been very impressed with Johnson for appointing such a diverse team in the main jobs, for the diversity of the current leadership candidates, and for the lack of any snide attacks in the contest from tories about the race or gender of the candidates.

It doesn't change the fact that Johnson was a massive wrong-un, sacked by his own MPs in the end (which is a plus point for them), though.

And it doesn't change the fact that the tories are in a mess, with the candidate backed by Nad and the minister for the 18th century as the strongest Brexiteer being a "remainer and former lib dem" (according to one tory member, backing Sunak, on the radio tonight).

The tories are in a right old mess. Operating a racist and sexist parliamentary party is NOT one of their sins, though. For that you can be rightly proud :thumbsup:
I always make a fair point Hazza, it's just some find it impossible to view a different slant on things.
Whoever wins I have no doubt the vast majority of tories mps will back.
The Tories are re grouping at a perfect time to hold off any charge from those minority parties. the tories have seen them in the distance and will be looking to widen that gap so they are seen as nothing more than a hallucination.:lolol:

Like HWT says, there has been a sea change in the diversity of the Cabinet under your glorious leader.
I'm more concerned about the broader culture and policy framework that each Cabinet adopts and implements. You and I will probably depart on this, as I think they've been extremely poor on this front, and all too keen to play culture wars as a distraction from other factors, with certain minority ethnic figures particularly keen to peddle such an agenda.

Culture wars, do you have any examples?
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Guinness Boy

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More great work from the Tories. Vote Truss, get Starmer. Well done Terrance and Felicity.


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