[Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

[WATFORD zero]

Well to be fair, 'friends' of this Government will need to diversify into new areas.

It looks as though, despite Johnson's best attempts, the various Covid related backhanders may not be available for much longer

 

[lawros left foot]

Is my understanding correct? That rather than accept the findings of an impartial parliamentary investigation into this individual’s behaviour, he’s persuaded his colleagues to instead vote for a complete reworking of the rules around MPs behaviour, conveniently letting himself off the hook, and avoiding the risk of a by-election?


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That’s generally it.

And you could add in the quite despicable accusation that his wife’s tragic suicide was a product of the investigation into his grifting even though he made no such allegations at the time of her death.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

This needs way more publicity. Disgusting abuse of their representative mandate. How is this in the public's interest.

 

[MattBackHome]

Yep it's all rotten throughout

 

[bobby baxter]

This needs way more publicity. Disgusting abuse of their representative mandate. How is this in the public's interest.

This is the saddest thing regarding this episode, whether it`s raw sewage poured into the sea and rivers or this, their friends in the press will ensure they will not be held to account for their actions.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Typical Tories.... How anyone can vote for them is beyond me... Mind you...It's close between them and the dodgy greens!

Caroline Lucas would make a great leader of the Labour Party in my opinion.

 

[nicko31]

And people wonder why the public get disillusioned with politicians. The Tories don't care...

 

[vegster]

We were a laughing stock, now we are beginning to plumb the depths of genuine corrupt governance in the same manner as Erdogan and Orban have abused office.

Sadly I can't see a way out of this, Johnson is not called to account for his lies and misdemeanours and the 80 seat majority means he can get away with anything. We have a client press and many broadcasters are compliant and afraid of the threats by the government attack dogs. So many ministers lie and break rules without an comeback and to top it all we have a supine electorate that can't see the catastrophe unfolding.

 

[usernamed]

No. There are some.

The 'tory scum' trope is not appropriate and is part of the reason labour STILL don't have enough support to dislodge this crime gang.

Floating voters win elections and suggesting that anyone who has voted in the past for the tories is, by definition, not decent is what labour used to call 'no compromise with the electorate'.

I want change, and saying 'yah boo' to former tory voters (and we are all former voters till the next time we vote) should not be part of the campaign.

I have to agree with this point. One of Labour’s biggest problems is that supporters/activists are far too quick to scream “Tory scum” at anyone who doesn’t completely share their values and/or purity of vision.

It plays well with the people who were always going to vote Labour anyway, and makes the party incredibly unappealing to almost everybody else.

I do feel that part of the reason people keep voting for this corrupt shower, is people look at how judgemental and unwelcoming the Labour Party appear, and can’t bring themselves to vote for them, regardless of what the incumbents are up to.


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[Pavilionaire]

1. Most voters don't like admitting or being told that they are / were wrong.

2. Most voters don't keep up to date with current affairs and so will be ignorant of this Owen Paterson story, effluent in our water supply, the fact that Boris fell asleep unmasked next to 95 year-old Sir David Attenborough etc.

3. The political Left are disunited and fragmented.

4. There is a right-wing media machine that deliberately distorts the facts.

So for things to change people need to be more humble, more questioning, stop buying into tabloid rubbish, while Labour / Lib Dem / Green need to get their Progressive Alliance shit together.

It is plain we need to change so many things about the way we live and yet our governing party seems intent on living in the past. The clue is in the name - Conservative.

 

[Pevenseagull]

So that's it ... Again.

Nose in trough, fill yer boots and there will be retrospective impunity even if you are bang to rights corrupt to the core.

Rancid.

 

[Rogero]

I hope he is severely punished although it is strange that no one spoke to him about it . If true maybe that is what needs to be changed .

 

[lawros left foot]

Perhaps a lot of the problem is that a thread ostensibly about a corrupt Conservative MP, and the protection offered to him by his fellow Conservative MPs has morphed into a thread criticising the Labour Party, and their shortcomings.

This is how the media including the BBC acts at the moment, divert, distract, confuse.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Perhaps a lot of the problem is that a thread ostensibly about a corrupt Conservative MP, and the protection offered to him by his fellow Conservative MPs has morphed into a thread criticising the Labour Party, and their shortcomings.

This is how the media including the BBC acts at the moment, divert, distract, confuse.

Has it?

 

[usernamed]

Perhaps a lot of the problem is that a thread ostensibly about a corrupt Conservative MP, and the protection offered to him by his fellow Conservative MPs has morphed into a thread criticising the Labour Party, and their shortcomings.

This is how the media including the BBC acts at the moment, divert, distract, confuse.

Sorry if I appear to be fuelling that, but I do want to understand how, with the Conservative Party being so openly and brazenly corrupt, it is that decent people are still voting for them over and above the alternatives.


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[lawros left foot]

Both Labour and the SNP have said that they will take no part in Johnson’s proposed new committee.

So just Conservatives and DUP to sit on it.

 

[jimhigham]

Is my understanding correct? That rather than accept the findings of an impartial parliamentary investigation into this individual’s behaviour, he’s persuaded his colleagues to instead vote for a complete reworking of the rules around MPs behaviour, conveniently letting himself off the hook, and avoiding the risk of a by-election?

Yes. That more or less covers it.

It’s all massively disagreeable. His proposed “punishment” was a 30 day suspension, which seems fairly meagre as a sanction to begin with. Even this was too much for the poor little corrupt lamb and strings were pulled.

Oh yes. And he got to vote on the amendment too, thereby having a direct say in amending the system to his advantage.

Absolutely disgraceful.

 

[CheeseRolls]

But the Prime Minister has intervened on his behalf.....so that's all right then.

A serial liar and philanderer that very few people trust intervening on behalf of somebody who has been found guilty of using House of Commons Notepaper and his Parliamentary Office facilities, which WE pay for, to further his own commercial interests and those of companies by which he is paid, remunerated, as a consultant, all of which is very heavily against the rules.

It stinks.

Or it was...

 

[Pevenseagull]

Both Labour and the SNP have said that they will take no part in Johnson’s proposed new committee.

So just Conservatives and DUP to sit on it.

More money for the DUP then.

 

[lawros left foot]

Sorry if I appear to be fuelling that, but I do want to understand how, with the Conservative Party being so openly and brazenly corrupt, it is that decent people are still voting for them over and above the alternatives.


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Lots of threads in the bear pit on this very subject.